Chambers Bay in TERRIBLE condition.

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DON
Chambers Bay in TERRIBLE condition.

That was the WORST looking golf course I have EVER seen on TOUR. The entire course was DRIED out and in horid shape. Can't say enough BAD things about the BROWNS. They were so bad I can't make myself call them Greens. I have to wonder WHEN it was that someone last Watered that course, it was so dried out and close to DEAD in so many places. There is NO way I would ever PAY money to place golf on a course that was that bad. Maybe, it they offered to PAY ME $50 to play that course  I'd think about it. I have no idea of who designed the layout or built the course, but they were highly OVERPAID in my opinion. Maybe someone FORGOT to include a Sprinkling System when it was laid out and that's why the whole course is just about DEAD. And the USGA had some really POOR excuses for the condition of the course that they put out there. None of which can make up for the sad truth, which is that the course was TERRIBLE. Sergio hit it on the head about the extremely poor Browns they had to putt on. It's NOT often that I feel sorry fot the Tour players that get to play a game for a living. but I did feel sorry tor all of them this week.

Scott Rushing
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Well.....I do think there

Well.....I do think there were issues with the design...and I was shocked about how "fast" they had what seemed like everything.  But I don't think it was dead...because the variety of grass they used turns "gold" (a.k.a brown?) in the summer.  So I think that was what it's supposed to look like actually.     To me they did have things a bit too dry and firm.  It seemed like any iron you struck wasn't stopping, wedge or otherwise.  Couldn't get anything to bit on the greens and check up hardly ever.  

Essentially they didn't penalize incredible shots and penalized to some degree everything else, which I don't think should be the norm.  I think you reward incredible and great shots, and you sort of ignore "OK" shots and penalize the rest.  That didn't seem to happen.   I saw shots land on the left of the green and roll al the way to the right into bunkers.  I'm sorry, if you can't even keep the ball on the green hitting to the opposite side of where the hole is, that's a problem.

Now, some great players managed their games and the course well.  Others didn't.  But they all had to play the same basic course setup.  Tough last day for DJ though.  He should have been up by at least 4 shots when he came into 18 but he couldn't putt.  Whether it was 3 days of beating them up and they were tentative, I don't know.  But had he been a bit more aggressive on putts he would have won.   Sorry to see him lose that way. 

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DON
What I find hard to believe

What I find hard to believe is that the so called Greens were not consistant in any way, other than that they were pretty much all "Inconsistant" . I've seen greens that vary in color, from one place to another, but these things looked more like a pictoure of the surface of the moon, Light spots mixed in with some what darker spots all over the greens. One reason is that the greens are made up of TWO types of grass. Two grasses with Different growing rates, and that Stop growing at different times of the day. All of which means "un-even" surface conditions all over the greens. Those surfaces the golfers were forced to putt on were VERY fast, with lots of up and down slopes, both front to back and side to side. Throw in a bumpy surface and it becomes next to impossible to make many putts. If I'm not mistaken, Jordan double bogeyed 17 when he 3 putted, which cost him his lead. Then DJ 3 putted from 12'4" which cost him the tourniment.

And I read somewhere that the greens fee for Chambers Bay are $200 walking the course. That's a LOT of money for ANY course, much less one with horrible greens or browns as I call them.

Don

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Aimee
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green/brown

it doesn't bother me to see brown (if you think of it as links style golf, that is actually more appropriate) but I saw one photo that Ian Poulter took up close of the green (camera down on the ground) and it was full of what looked like broad leaf type crabgrass. I've been reading posts on Twitter by various pros who compared the greens to broccoli. Nobody cares if the greens are "all green" as long as they roll properly and the problem was the inconsistency of the surface.

Not to mention the crazy bowl shapes and swells...like mini golf.

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scomac
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That course was a joke!  I

That course was a joke!  I would call it a failed experiment at reclaiming a strip mine which is in essense what they were working with.  Not to take anything away from the winner, but the outcome IMO had a much higher component of luck built into it than you typically find in a PGA Tour set-up.  Perhaps that's the problem, this was the USGA's baby.  They are developing quite the record of getting things wrong on most issues.

Scott Rushing
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Well I do hope they learn

Well I do hope they learn from it.  it's difficult to put together a game plan as a player when the ball rolls so far due to the course conditions. If you're going to have it hard and dry and running, you have to give them more room around the greens that can keep a good shot out of the hazards.   I don't mind the color of the greens either, we will see that again with the Open coming up in a few weeks.  

If Dustin had been able to putt at all the last day, he would have won handidly I think...

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scomac
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It just goes to show you that

It just goes to show you that putting stats aren't worth much as DJ is generally viewed as one of the better putters on tour.  Based on his track record in major championships I'd say it's not about how many putts you make, it's all about when you make them!