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Scott Rushing
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GlobalGolf U-Try program

Not sure if you all have seen but GlobalGolf.com has a $25 try it before you buy it program on new clubs.  For the $25, they ship you a free whatever and you get 14 days after you receive it to try it.  Then return it and unless you damaged it, you're done.  If you choose to buy the club, they deduct the $25 from the cost of the club and you keep it. 

I was looking at upgrading my Ping G30 to a newer Ping driver and the used prices on the newest driver, the g400 Max aren't worth buying used.  So I'm going to demo the new on just to see if it's that much better than what I have.  The reviews say it's much more forgiving.  But if I don't like it, I'm out $25 to get to try it for 2 weeks.  Not bad..  but only available on new items, not used.

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That might be a good way to

That might be a good way to go, but don't forget the shipping cost to send it back if you don't like the club. And you may or may NOT like the new Ping G400 Mas driver becasue you at getting it with the factory shaft, which is a rather "Cheap" shaft that is NOT the best performing shaft out there. I would " Much" rather see any good golfer put his or her money into a "GOOD" after market shaft than to buy a new driver with a cheap factory shaft in it. I recently watched a video by Rick Shields where he hit the last 5 years worth of Ping drivers side by side on a launch monitor, and he said that the older Ping G 20 was the easiest one to hit of the bunch. He hit MORE fairways with the old G20 than with the new Ping G400. Take that for what it's worth. I recently purchased a use Ping  G20 after watching the video and chacking out prices for used Ping drivers. After I did a FLO test on the TPT Golf shaft and it performed well in the FLO test I picked up a Ping G driver to use with the TPT shaft. Two advantages of the Ping G over the new G400 and G400 Max is, ONE, the price is MUCH lower, and TWO. the head weight in the  Ping G is "Round", and that means I can make different extra ones in different weights to change the swing weight of the driver as needed. I like a D 4 swing weight for my driver, so I need a heavier head weight especially when I go down to a 44.5 inch driver. Todays super light shaft only make things worse as they lower the swing weight as well. So unless you want to play golf with a 46 inch driver, you need a heavier club head and a heavier sole weight is the BEST way to do that. 

Don

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Scott Rushing
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Thansk Don.  I have 2 shafts

Thansk Don.  I have 2 shafts here I ploan to use in the driver depending on how I like the stock shaft.  I have the Blue plus the UST ProForce 2.  I am not though one who likes the D 4 swing weight.  To heavy/stiff for me.  I feel more comfortable in the sub 70 gram weight category.  And the nice thing on They're U Try program, they pay the 2 day shipping both ways.  So my cost is a total $25 if I want to send it back.  But I plan to use it with several shafts in it that I have and see what I like.

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/2PCS

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2PCS-PING-G-G30-LS-SF-TEC-ADAPTER-SLEEVE-335-FO...
This is a link to buy extra shaft sleeves for the Ping driver if you need some. Be sure to have those shafts spine and FLO aligned before you try them in the new Ping driver or you will not get them to perform at their best. 

I see that the price on that Ping G400 Max is $399. So after you do your test with the new Ping, you could check on prices for used ones and see if you could save some money by returning the new Ping driver and then buy a used one at a better price. Might be worth looing into at least. Good luck with your try out. Just as a NOTE, when I had the shaft fitting the the TPT shaft it was the Ping G400 Max head that we used. and it was pretty nice, but I don't think it is much if any better than the older Ping G that I picked up used for around $100.

Don

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Scott Rushing
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I've got the G30 now...and it

I've got the G30 now...and it's nice but yes, I'm curious to see side by side for 2 weeks, is the G400 Max noticably better.  All the review I've seen online all talk about how much more forgiveness it has and how much closer the dispersion is of their shots compared to the G30 or the G400 itself. 

I've looked at some used ones but that savings hasn't been enough that it made that much since to pull the trigger own over buying new but we'll see.  First key is comparing it to what I use now and see if it performs better.  I have some rewards coming that essentially would make the purchase FREE so not a bad way to use them if it turns out to make a noticable difference.

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This for a "For What It's

This for a "For What It's Worth" post. When I had my driver shaft fitting we used the Ping G400 Max with 4 different TPT shafts, and we also tested my current driver which is a 2006 Cleveland Launcher 460 Comp with a Graman 78 gram S flex shaft. When we were all done, the results were interesting in a few ways. First of which is that my driver with the 78 gram shaft gave me ONE MPh higher clubhead speed than all the other shafts did in the Ping G400 Max head.All of the TPT shaft were lighter than my Graman shaft and the Ping head has "Turpulators" on the crown of the head to increase head speed by reducing air resistance. So much for the theory of lighter shafts equaling higher speed, and so much for the effect of drag reducing features on the head.

Of the four shafts we tested in the Ping head, only ONE of them gave me tighter shot dispersion compated to my 460 Comp, and that one was only a few yards tighter. NOT enough to make me go out and buy a new Ping driver for $400 or so.

On a third note, when I was talking to the club fitter he told me that the Ping G30 was in his opinion the "Worst" driver from Ping over the last 6 years or so. He said that the Ping G20 and the Ping G were both easier to hit, with the adcantage going to the Ping G. One reason for this my be becasue the Ping G does NOT have the adjustable hosel and head weights so they were able to place the weight if the head were they wanted it and not have to deal with movable weights and negative effects they have with weight location.

As for the G400 and the G400 Max, I believe Rick Shields did a test of them side by side and while the Goo Max was more forgiving, it was NOT enough better that he would buy one and put it in this bag.

ONE nice thing for YOU is that you have the G30 and you can use the shafts for it in the Ping G400 Max so that is a nice plus. YOu would have 3 shafts that all fit both heads so you can do a side by side test of which head is better in your hands, And you can see which shaft is best for you at the same time. Be sure to let us know what you dind out with your testing sessions. It will be interesting to see what you get for both drivers and 3 shafts.

P.S.  If you don't find that the G400 Max is that much better, then it might be worth checking out the price for the Ping G400 driver. Now that Ping has introduced the G400 Max, I would think that theere will be some lower prices for the older Ping g400 on Ebay and a few other places as well. From what I saw online, most testers were saying that the Ping G400 "WAS" the most foregiving driver out there until the Max came out, so it should be easier to hit then the G30 you have now. Just a throught to ponder before you buy.  

Don

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Well I hope too...but

Well I hope too...but hurricane Florence is coming in...and things look to be very bad weather wise the next 3-5 days...so we could have really poor conditions for a while.  So we'll have to see how much testing I can get done...if it looks like a major wash out I can try to rent time in a simulator and see what the numbers say.

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Don, I watched that video

Don, I watched that video from Rick as well..if I recall though the thing he didn't like most was the sound.  Or one of the videos I watched on the 400 to the 400 max was ..  the guy he preconceptions about how it's for higher handicappers and wouldn't reach his numbers, which it did reach, and the if you'd have asked him before the test, no, no way he would put it in his bag but after the test the only major reason he wouldn't was the sound.  But I think he said the advantage of it was the more forgiveness.  So to me, as often as I play, or hope I'll be able to play given this back, $50 more for something that will only improve my accuracy, it's worth it.  If  it keeps me out of the deep trees a few times, it will have paid for itself. 

But we're jumping ahead of ourselves...we'll see what sorts of tests I can do over the next 2 weeks to compare.  Rains are set to start sometime to night and run into Tuesday next week at least..

 

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I remember the bit about the

I remember the bit about the loud sound of the Ping G400Max in that video, but when I had my fitting at Club Champion it was INDOORS on a Trackman and I did NOT notice any loud noise with the Ping. I was hitting my 460 Comp as well and I didn't notice a difference in the sould at impact, and one of the things I like about my 460 Comp is how it does NOT make a lot of noise, like some of the driver did a few years back. Let me know what you think about the sound when you get the Ping G400 Max. I doubt you will notice much if any difference in the sound compared to your G30. 

And to be honest, IF the Ping G400 Max did make a lot of noise, "Who Cares". While I may not like a loud driver, it's NOT going to have a negative effect on MY game. and if it bothers some other golfer in my foursome, so much the BETTER. IF the noise offends them that's their problem, not mine. devil

Don

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Yeah I can deal with noise..

Yeah I can deal with noise...nothign can be as loud as the Cobra I used to play with..

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The old Cobra Speed LD and

The old Cobra Speed LD and the Cleveland Hi-Bore were both rather loud, I have both some where. The loudest and one I never had but heard at the range was the old Nike Square head driver, it make the Cobra and Hi-Bore seem quiet if you can believe that. 

I hope you get a cahnce to hit the Ping G400 with all the weather you are getting back there in N.C. I've been watching the news coverage of the hurricane and you are really getting hit hard and long term with it moving at only 2 MPH as of this morning. From what I've seen on TV, it seems that New Bern is getting about the worst of it. Sad to say but my sister lives in a sub division just outsie of New Bern and she is only a hundred yards or so from a canal that rounds thru the area. Not at all far from the Neuse river watch I understand is way over it's back. I"m hoping my sister went to Raliegh to stay with her daughter to ride out the storm. I hope she has a house to come home to when it's all over. 

Don

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wow, I hope so to Don.  New

wow, I hope so to Don.  New Bern was just getting hit bad. I hope they are one of the lucky ones.  Its bad here..insane water amounts..with more flooding expected because of all the rains the mountains will get.  

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I played the front 9 with the

I played the front 9 with the old G30 driver and the back 9 with the new G400Max driver yesterday at Desert Forest.  My better drives tended to be with the Max...and I would say the ball wanted to go straight.  Not to say a bad swing wasn't going to hook left or slice right.  They did.  Often. But the 400Max , trying hard to play my slight fade, the ball just went straight.  So much so that I would aim for the fade along the left side of the fairway and I'd hit it into the left stuff.  Grrrr.  Length wise, the two good drives I had with it I was toe to toe with one of the players out here who hits it pretty long.  So I'd say its longer then the G30. 

That was with the stock shaft in it.  We'll see how today goes, if I'm swinging better I may switch out the Blue from the G30 with the 400Max.  But next week when I get home I'll do more of a test of different shafts and hitting at the range.  Clearly the shaft wasn't the problem as bad as I was hitting the G30 on the front 9.

Hard to make any factual decisions based ojn how bad I was swinging yesterday but initial thought it it's long and more foregiving than the 30. 

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Have you had a good chance to

Have you had a good chance to hit the Ping G30 and G400 using the SAME shaft so you can compare JUST the heads side by side ???    Have YOU noticed any real difference in the NOISE level with the G400 Max? When I hit it during my driver fitting i did NOT notice it as being loud at all. I hope you have enough good weather to hit the driver enough to get a good idea of how good it is and if you want to buy it or send it back. Good luck and let me know what you decide.

Don

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On the shaft Don, yes, I've

On the shaft Don, yes, I've used the Graphaloy  Blue  in both.   My view of the results are - though it's a limited test - the 400Max is longer for me and a little more consistent.  I get a nice draw to straight ball flight with the 400M and the 30 veers a little more either way.   I don't mind the sound of the g400Max at all.  I think more than the club, the ball has made more changes in the sound to me. 

Today I spent time at the range trying the Blue shaft vs the stock shaft in the g400Max.  I hit about 6 drives with the stock shaft most of which wound up within say a 30 yard area.  Mostly due to one that didn't draw.  Carry distance was probably somewhere in the 260 range I think.  hard to know the range was elevated at that spot on the range.   I moved to the Blue and didn't notice much in terms of distance change.  Maybe a couple balls were a little more to the right than drew to the left but not a huge difference overall that I could see.  The good ones were good the others were pretty good. 

We'll try again sometime this week.

 

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and let me say....today i was

and let me say....today i was hitting balls into an area of the range I've not hit balls into before.  Not saying it's 30 yards deeper but I'd say about 10-15 yards further than normal.  Lots of factors I realize but I was noticing where they were flying too..this club has some legs.  And on many fairways they would have found the short grass.   if you have a spare $25 to try out a club, with free shipping both ways, i'd recommend the U Try program. 

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So now you have to decide if

So now you have to decide if the small gain in distance and more consistency from the G400 Max is worth the cost of the new driver. Or would you be better off the spend that money on a better shaft that was inatalled after a proper spine and FLO alignment on the shaft. Which would give you the best value for your dollor ?? Or would it be worht it to do BOTH ? Buy the G400 Max and then have a shaft that is spine and FLO aligned to go with the new head ? 

Don

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Probably go with the latter..

Probably go with the latter...with trade-in I get the new driver for about half price.  Once I figure out the settings and shaft I like and get it setup right.   I don't have ready access to adequately test a number of high end shafts with monitor numbers to see what works best.  Oban has some nice ones low spin shafts but getting to a fitter with different options isn't real plentiful here and I don't want to spend $200 on a shaft without seeing launch number improvements .   So I plan to ask around here about fitters where I could try out some options.

 

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I had my driver fitting at

I had my driver fitting at Club Champion and their normal charge is $150.00 and it is NOT apliable to the cost of a shaft should you buy one form them. I don't know who does the best fitting of driver shafts, and I have no idea of what you can find in your area, so you are going to have to do some research on that. 

One of the biggest problems with todays driver is that it's hard to figure out what loft setting to use with the Ping driver, as you need to rotate the shaft to test it. And when you rotate the shaft you  chance the alignment of the shaft to one of FIVE settings, and that can have a negitive effect on the performance of the shaft/head combo. Being able to change the loft a degree or so up or down is NICE, but it's NOT worth it if you mess up the FLO alignment of the shaft when you do it. In the 15 years that I have been doing spine and FLO alignment testing of shafts i haveonly found TWO shafts that would FLO correctly when you rotate the shaft as you need to do with the Ping drivers. And both to them were TPT Golf shafts that sell for $500.00 per shaft, and you need to have a shaft fitting before they will sell you the shaft, so that adds the cost of the fitting to the total cost, Plus whatever the fitter would charge to install the shaft with an adapter as well. Bpttom line is it's NOT cheap no matter what you decide to do. One thing I will say is that I'm really glad I know how to do the shaft work myself and I don't have to pay someone to install a shaft in the head of shaft sleeve/adapter. 

Don

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Agree Don.  It's great to b

Agree Don.  It's great to b able to do those things yourself, rather than have to pay someone too.  I'm going to ask around about fittings and see who has decent shaft choices.  Right now I'm still swapping out the 2 PING tipped shafts I have and seeing what I like and how they differ.   Today at the range I hit the stock shaft pretty well, straight to slight draw once I got the alignment issues resolved.  Popper in the Grafalloy Blue and immediately either made some bad swings or I hit several more right and left.  Settled it down a bit and hit a few good ones with it, but they had about the same trajectory as the stock shaft.  Probably just a few bad swings in the beginning. Distance is hard to gauge difference wise because of the layout of the range.  Didn't see anything shockingly different either way.  Switched back to the stock shaft and adjusted the loft a half degree lower...couldn't tell much in the 2 shots I had with it.    Overall the shafts seem to be performing about the same trajectory and shape wise..though the Blue might have a little bigger dispersion.   I will keep testing...

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I'd be willing to BET that

I'd be willing to BET that with the Ping driver with it's FIVE loft settings if you take the time to really test each shaft, you will find ONE loft setting with each shaft that will perform better than the others in terms of dispersion patterns. Just one more thing that makes it hard to figure out what loft is best as the performance of the shaft can change so much from setting to setting. Add to this the fact that the best setting of loft with ONE shaft may NOT be the best for another shaft with a different kick point. All the more reason I prefer to play a driver that does NOT have any hosel adjustments that change the FLO properties of the shaft.

Don

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I did a little looking and

I did a little looking and found out that Champion Golf has a store in Charlotte N.C. so you have a store near you should you decide to have a driver fitting some time. They us Tranckman so you get good test data to look at and compare. If I"m not mistaken, they charge $150.00 for a driver fitting and the cost is NOT applied to the cost of a shaft should you buy one from them. NOT Cheap, but it's an option at least. 

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Yeah.   There's a club near

Yeah.   There's a club near me that's adding trackman and some indoor/outdoor facilities.  They are setting up a membership fee with driver and iron fittings included, unlimited lessons, club loft review/adjustments, playing lesson with the instructor, some hours on the golf simulator, entry into his clinics during the year,  etc.  So I'm trying to decide if I want to buy a membership for a year because that $150 would be about 1/5th the cost of a years membership. I think I can get it for about $700.   I may try it for a year and see how much I use it.  I don't think I would lose too much value.

 

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Hard to know how much you

Hard to know how much you would use the membership if you got one. But it "Might" get you to spend more time on improving your game and that might make the whole thing worth it. It could turn out to be a reall good deal if you make good use of all the aspects it encludes. Getting a good driver setup would be a plus for sure using the monitor to dail in the loft and shaft options you have. You could also get exaxt yardages for each of the club in your bag on the Trackman which would be more accurate then just hitting balls at the range or on the course. You could also test different golf balls to see what works best for you with better info than you could get at the range or course. Is the place close by so that you would use it a lot? If it's real handy you would most likely use it more and get more out of your investment I would think. Good luck with whatever you decide to do. 

Don

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