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Scott Rushing
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How was your range session

Hit the range today. A little windy and about 45 degrees but sunny. Playing tomorrow so I needed to take some rust off. Heard an interesting tip today on The Golf Channel. Apparently Hank Haney says the best golf tip he ever heard was to make 100 practice swings each day. So, earlier today I started taking about 50 swings in the house trying to loosen up and get my swing feeling a little less rusty.

At the range i was hitting irons pretty good but hit my 3W a fee times with the results being pull hooks. So I put some impact tape on and was actually hitting it in the center of the club face..so that told me..it was my swing / swing path, I must be coming around and over the top instead of bringing my right should under my left. . So I took a few practice swings with an exaggerated drop of my right elbow back to my right side at the start of my downswing. That feeling of getting my elbow back connected to my body. That made a huge difference. I hit like 5 of 6 3W shots very straight and very solid. So was pleased with that change. Driver was a bit hit and miss but finished strong with it so tomorrow I'll have to work on that at the range.

It's maybe going to be 60 tomorrow. Let's hope it gets close to that!

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Hit the range for a small

Hit the range for a small bucket yesterday. Hit ok. Hit the new Cobra's. First shot was a Nice solid draw. Mishit the last few balls due to a kids Father showing up and barking orders at him and seeming to be displeased with everything he was doing. Seemed like the kid had been there for several hours hitting and I kept hearing the dad say things like "having been hitting like that all day?" ust was very distracting for me as I was feeling sorry for the kid. Just not my style of providing feedback.

Anyway I like the clubs. They have a really thick top line which I have to get used too. I knew they did from reading the reviews but I didn't think it would be quite that thick. But I'll see how they play. I think I can get over that.

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Nothing cures a questionable

Nothing cures a questionable appearance quicker than great golf shots. The funny thing is that your mind gets so used to a certain style or appearance equating to good shots that it makes it so.

Enjoy the new clubs. I'm sure that you'll find them very satisfying.

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Was in the 60s this weekend

Was in the 60s this weekend so made it to the range both days. Paying for it now though as my back is acting up. Trying to incorporate more stretches for the back into my daily workout.

But overall it was just nice to be outside. Was perfect weather here to play but just didn't have the time. New (used) clubs are doing good. Looking forward to actually trying them on the course.

Ball flight seems a little higher than the Pings. Working mostly swing-wise on not hitting shots off the toe and on starting the downswing with the right shoulder coming more downward than around. I'm finding until I'm loose, I wind up making more of an around the body 'baseball' swing instead of the rotating the shoulders down. That's been leading me to hit big hooking pull's. But when I get myself focusing on getting that right shoulder coming down under my chin, I strike the ball much better.

Oh well, just glad to be able to hit at the range...

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Aimee
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back again

Fred, good luck with the new golf season. Don't over do it on the practice and mess up your back again!

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Scott Rushing
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Well that's not good

Sorry to hear that Fred. Hope you recover quickly. As you have seen in some of my other posts, I've had to add back stretches to my daily routine. It's helping but slow goings.

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Aimee
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range

finally, it was 60 degrees today and I made it my business to work from home. Briefly considered trying to play, but the course only had holes 1-13 open so it must have been a soggy mess. Went to the range, probably the wiser move since the last time was just before Christmas.
Actually hit the ball OK all things considered, reinforced that my biggest problem is taking the club too far behind on the backswing. If I concentrate on the feeling of "pushing" it back to keep it in front of my right shoulder, it helps.

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Had an ugly range session

Had an ugly range session Monday but I was a little rushed trying to get it in before another commitment. But heading to vegas next week for March Madness and plan to take the clubs to play at least one time.

Strange weather continues...65+ the last 3 days and 40 tomorrow on my birthday. Augh!!!!!!!

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Aimee
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range

hit the range again on Saturday. I was really sore after my first time out (Tues) but fine after this time. Generally find that first range or first round of the season makes me a little sore.
Working on takeaway to not get too far behind myself, then after mis-hitting irons and switching to hybrid/wood/driver and coming back to irons, realized that my arms were disconnected from my body. I wasn't rotating my upper body back along with my arms (don't have that problem with wedges because of shorter swing). That's why when I tried to hit half swing punch shots I was connecting OK, but falling apart on full shots.
Sheesh, I gotta get it all together before I go to Florida in May!

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Aimee
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range

Michael took a lesson on Saturday, I always record video on my iPad for him to keep as reference. Usually there are a bunch of balls leftover so I hit, but not so many this time (darn it, he hit too many during the lesson). I've been stressed out with my irons, my swing got all screwed up and I was sending everything right. Way right.
I think that I over-corrected on my issue of taking the club too far behind on the back swing and now I'm swinging outside in. It's nuts, I'm hitting driver, 4W, hybrid great and my irons are screwed up (makes it hard to score).

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Scott Rushing
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Do you ever go to the range AFTER your round of golf?

The pro's do it. But we don't usually do it. After a round, heading to the range to work on those shots that we didn't execute very well. Was reading an article from Hank Haney on it and while it does sound helpful, I just don't usually have the energy or the time to go do it.

Any one else ever go afterwards?

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I went to the range for the

I went to the range for the first time this year Friday. Seems like every time I wanted to hit the range it was cloudy, and since I can't see where the balls go when it's cloudy, I haven't gone in a long time. Friday it was pretty much sunny while I was at the range. I did a lot better than I might have considering how long it had been since I last swung a club. I'm still getting a few HIGH swing speed readings on my SwingSpeedRadar unit that I can't explain fully. Using my 9 wood, my swing was around 95 MPH most of the time. But then out of no where I got a few high readings, 122, 118, 115, 112 and a few more. Did the same thing with my 3 hybrid a few times. Judging by how far the range balls went on those swings, I have no choice but to believe that the reading were correct or at least very close. The guy hitting balls next to me couldn't help but notice how far I was hitting the balls on those high swing speed shots. About the only thing I can come up with to explain the high reading is that on those few swings I got EVERYTHING perfect. Good technique with good timing and the right sequence of events. I really need to either video my swing or take a lesson with a good instructor to figure out exactly what's going on so I can hopefully figure out how to get the high speed swings a lot more often and more consistently.

Don

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Don,

Don,

hope the eye surgery works out. Hopefully you'll be back to being able to see your shots very soon

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Have been hitting the range

Have been hitting the range and just taking a couple clubs, 1 iron and the driver. Just working on trying to sort out my swing so I can hit the darn ball in the same general place 2 or 3 times in a row. Watched a video tape of a couple swings and saw my upper body was lined up further left than my feet. So that would explain the occassional left pulls I do. So will work on that.

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Aimee
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range/lesson

went to the range for a lesson late Friday afternoon. I had gone the day before for the Ping demo and told my Pro about my iron problems. It was so nice when we started he said he was thinking about it all day and was really concerned, he wanted me to get my head straight and make some progress, fast. It's nice to know the guy does care about his students. So he believes the issue was twofold...dipping into the swing and pushing the handle of the shaft too far forward, which opens the club face. I likely did that in a misguided attempt to hit down on the ball more (all of the ads for training devices seem to show that the shaft has to lead forward...). We worked a drill the whole time with my 9i and what I did was set up, then turn my feet so I was angled about 30 degrees (back more towards the ball). You swing along a straight path, it feels like hitting punch shots. Hitting with half swing, I was consistently 75 yards (normal 9i for me is 90 yards) and dead straight. After he left, I finished the bucket and took a couple of full swings with still using a modified stance, hit some good shots. The concept of this is to get the feel of hitting against a firm left leg. Obviously I am not doing this with the woods because of the longer shaft and the swing for me is different, I keep my shoulders more level and legs more stable.
Went over to the practice sand bunker and hit around 8 balls out. Got all of them out, it's crazy I can't do it on the course.
Going to hit more balls today and playing tomorrow.

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Aimee
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range

went to the range, mostly worked the drill from my lesson. Still not hitting irons properly if I go in to a "normal" stance, but if I can hit with this modified stance (albeit, about a club short on distance) I'll deal with it for now.
Hit a few with driver, hybrid and 4W just to make sure I hadn't messed anything up with them. Still good.

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Scott Rushing
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Hit the range the other night

Hit the range the other night, one that had mats out, which is good and bad. The grass was bad due to rain but the mats give you that false sense you're hitting well . And these were nice mats. Ball sat way up.

So I'm not sure if I hit well because of the mats or because I was doing some things right.

Heading to my range tomorrow.

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Aimee
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Progress

In my round today, I hit some really good iron shots (hit some bad too, but more good than bad). Back 9 started transitioning to a more normal stance, still trying to keep right foot a bit open, but thats not bad because it promotes a draw. I hit some really nice high, soft shots and wound up over clubbing a couple of times, but I have no prob hitting a good shot too far. Having faith in the instruction and accepting that one step back will eventually make two steps forward.

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Aimee
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range

went to the range on Saturday, skies were threatening and sure enough 5 minutes after we got there we had to dash into the main building to escape a squall/thunderstorm. We had gone into the covered/enclosed stalls in anticipation so the bags didn't get too wet...since the wind had kicked up like crazy for the storm, laid the bags on the ground so they wouldn't get knocked over, it was intense for about 20 minutes. Everyone checking radar on their Smart Phones to see how soon it would pass...
Anyhow, afterwards got back into the stall and hit away. I still have to use that modified stance (right foot/leg angled back) in order to hit consistently, but it works. When I took more of a full swing (instead of thinking of it as a punch shot) I hit some really nice high shots. So I'll get over the fact that it probably looks strange if it allows me to hit solidly. I guess the idea is that over time I can reduce that angle to eventually get back into feet aligned. Don't need to do it with hybrid, wood, or driver, still hitting them fine with "normal" stance.
Playing on Sunday...so report to follow.

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Aimee
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range

As noted in another thread, worked at home today and it was quiet so I went to the range late afternoon. Wanted to hit the new (preowned) #5 hybrid (it works) and continue my swing therapy. Seem to be able to hit wedges with a "normal" stance, but still using the modified stance (right foot angled back 45 deg) for everything else. So I'll probably just soften up the angle on my foot (more like flared out) for the wedges to keep things somewhat consistent. Spoke to my instructor and he confirmed that basically as I feel more comfortable, over time, I should just slowly reduce that angle. Part of it is mental, this is to help me get my confidence back, which it is doing.
Hit a couple of sand shots, confirmed that I may have been putting ball too far forward since I always took a lot of sand and then hit the ball, so by adjusting I got a couple of nice shots with the "thump" sound and soft ball flight. Then hit a dozen LW and SW shots for distance/directional control off the weeds/grass.

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Scott Rushing
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interestng. I've seen

interestng. I've seen instructors actually recommend moving you LEFT foot back a little to open your stance so we can clear our hips and square the club. And at first I thought that was what you were sort of referring too but then I noticed you said RIGHT foot. So that's interesting. I think if you're hitting better with it, then that's fine. Look at Furyk and his figure 8 swing path. The key is what helps get you to square the club at impact. So don't worry about how it looks if it leads to lower scores!

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Aimee
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right foot

moving the whole right foot/leg back at an angle is to keep my shoulders from opening up and also forces me to hit against the left (forward) leg. Helps prevent too much back and forth weight shift. It is doing something, because when I hit into the greens, the ball is sticking (ie, backspin) so I must be hitting down on the ball more effectively.
Clearing the left side not a problem. I do that too much. When I practiced today, my instructor took a peek at one of my swings (he was giving a lesson a couple of mats down) and said my hips were staying more level.
I like the fact that he tends to pick one thing in the swing and work on that until it is satisfactory, rather than trying to get 3 things corrected, which likely gives you too much to think about. He helped my husband (an ongoing project) for the driver swing, which has always been too upright...focusing on keeping the hands low longer on the takeaway. But he didn't get to this part of the swing until he had corrected other flaws that would have messed up the motion anyhow...so I understand his logic, now.

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Back was acting up again this

Back was acting up again this week. I guess too much working in the yard got to it...that coupled with sitting on my ass in a chair by the pool for 5 or so hours Sunday! ha.. So today it was a bit stiff and sore. Did go to the range and hit a small bucket. Last round was all going right so wanted to work on it. I think it comes down to my flaw of sliding out in front on the downswing. When I could stay still, the driver went straight. Irons were pretty solid shots. Just carried a 7I with me and those tended to be straight and consistent trajectory.

Playing Wednesday in my courses golf league. So we'll see how the swing and the back hold up.

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Aimee
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Monday

Didn't have the "A" game...or the "B" game for that matter. For what ever reason, not mentally into it and shot a 97. That is with ESC, since with my handicap the most I can take on a hole is 7...did make some good wedge shots out of challenging lies, so not like there wasn't a single bright spot. But I've noticed when I'm not feeling sharp, I don't concentrate on putts as much, so that part suffers, which is often the strong part of my game. Oh well, the weather was great and I'll get it together next week!

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Aimee
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range/lesson

Company picnic today, so I knew the afternoon was shot work-wise, might as well get a lesson in! I wanted to go to my #2 instructor, and he happens to be further north (the direction I was coming from) so it was a perfect wave. He watched my blocked iron shots for a few swings and determined the root cause was crowding the ball (some other minor things, but that was the main one). I was standing too close to the ball with the irons (obviously could get away with the shorter shafts of the wedges) so hitting towards the edge of the heel (not quite a shank off the hosel) with the club still open a bit. Needed to get right arm under left arm at set up (right elbow close to body). Also gripping too tight (not surprising, when you're falling apart with a swing you tend to tense up) so the club face couldn't move properly during the swing. Moved further away from the ball, kind of dropping my right foot back just a hair to ensure my right shoulder stays behind. Keeping grip as loose as I can (don't know how that's going to work first time I'm in deep rough...). Trying to actually start closing the club face during the down swing (earlier than I was). Body and swing not synched yet, so although I hit some excellent shots they would go a bit left because of the earlier release...but they went high and far, so I can work with the timing thing (until that's fixed, just need to remember to aim a bit further right to compensate). If I had to guess, I was previously squaring the club up as it was just behind my back leg. Probably getting to it now when it's about waist high on the down swing. A guess.
He said that is also likely related to why I tend to block the driver, not keeping hands loose enough to square club face at impact. And why I didn't have this problem with fairway/hybrids, I always tended to stand further away from the ball because of the longer shafts, didn't have that mentality of the iron swing with keeping arms in tight to the body.
Still have to work on it, but glad I made progress with "normal" shots rather than just having more drills to work on, the drills can help me reinforce in between.

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Scott Rushing
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Good work Aimee. Isn't it

Good work Aimee. Isn't it amazing how our Pro's can see these things pretty quickly? Mine's the same way. if I'm struggling, she can watch like 3 swings and say "do this.." and that helps.

I hit the range today since I have a league match tomorrow. Man it was tough because beside me was a man and his 2 sons, one of which was hitting balls and was mad because he hadn't played well. Every swing brought frustration and his dad would try to tell him what he was doing but not in the nicest of ways. I felt bad for the one other child who was just standing there. Anyway, I didn't even hit my whole bucket because it was getting on my nerves. Apparently they video taped a few swings and sent them to his instructor whom his dad then called. I guess his son has a match sometime soon.

Anyway, beyond that distraction, it was a pretty good hour. Wrist is getting sore from my gym workouts so the first 15 balls are painful until it loosens up. Need to deal with that I guess :) .. But I hit just a ton of 7Is trying to get consistency with trajectory and direction and distance. Wound up remembering my wrist-cock issues from prior lessons and started making sure I was cocking my wrists earlier, because I noticed I wasn't. Hit some really good solid shots with that 7I and my PW.

So for me, keeping my body centered and not swaying right and left in the swing, getting myself lined up properly, light grip, proper wrist cock and not taking too long and jerky a swing transition, and I'm golden! ha!!! That's all it takes!

We'll see how tomorrow goes.

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Hit the range myself today

Hit the range myself today with the objective to see if i could straighten out a couple of issues. I installed swing weight tape in the cavity of each of my new irons. This is the preweighted pieces that add 2 swing weight points each. It's hard to imagine that a few grams can make the difference in tracking the clubhead in the swing, but that appears to be the case for me. I know it helped a year ago when I added one of these to the sole of the driver that I was using at the time after I had shortened the shaft. It helped there so I thought, why not try here.

Contact was much more consistent as I was hitting down more on the ball than previously. I have to be mindful of keeping my swing compact while at the same time maintaining width in the swing. The results are pretty immediate when I concentrate of these things. The other issue with directional control seems to be more or less linked the the more upright lie angle of these irons versus the OTR clubs I had been sing prior. I suspect that my set-up needs to be a bit different with less bend at the waist and more knee flex. The more upright posture had an immediate impact on direction -- straight versus what can at times be a very pronounced pull.

It's going to take some time to work in the swing changes, but I'm confident that they will work and should benefit all my clubs not just the iron play. I was hitting 6 iron and 8 iron today and as I got the changes worked in I noticed not only improvements in distance but trajectory as well.

Aimee
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swing weight

you have less weight switching from steel shafts to graphite, you probably haven't worked long enough with the new irons to smooth out the swing. I think my husband had the same issue when he made the switch, it took a while to build a new "muscle memory" for the lesser weight.

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Thanks for the encouragement,

Thanks for the encouragement, Aimee! I never could understand how some fellows can change clubs every time you turn around while for me it is always a bit of a challenge bringing something new to the game even inspite of testing results that indicate it is clearly superior to what I had been using.

Scott Rushing
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Well sometimes you sort of

Well sometimes you sort of get used to something and especially now, with the shafts being so varied between manufacturers, different irons can really play differently.

When I went from the Wilson's to the PIng, the loss in forgiveness was tough and while I'd have some really nice shots with the Pings, I also had a lot of less than quality ones. The Cobra's are better and closer to the distance the Wilson's were but it's taken months to finally start to get a swing grooved with them. But it seems like it's coming together.

hit the range this afternoon with the PW, 9I, 6I, 3W and Driver. I've stopped taking the whole bag because I want to focus on hitting 1 or 2 irons consistently, trajectory wise and shot shape. Anyway, if I make sure to do the wrist cock (funny how you forget something that works so well when you remember to do it) I get some nice compression on the ball and feel like I'm striking it solid. Alignment was OK but not great as while I hit some shots within a nice tight dispersion area, others were well off.

Driver wise I was working on fading the ball. I don't find it as easy to fade the "draw" set driver. if I set it to "neutral", then I can more easily fade it. But I was able to get into a groove and hit about 4-6 shots where I wanted too. Still need a lot more work with it.

Playing tomorrow and will have to hit some draws and fades so we'll see how it goes.

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Frustrating game Golf is.

Frustrating game Golf is..Friday I shot 74 hitting like 13GIR and10FIR and today, hit the range to loosen up and work on my tee shots since that's been very inconsistent and man, went through almost a bucket of balls before I figured out how to hit a ball even close to my target line. I didn't feel 100% comfortable but I didn't feel like I'd never picked up a club before.

A big piece for me right now is alignment and club path on the takeaway. I think Im getting a little sloppy and I need to work harder on making sure that gets set right before I swing. May try to play tomorrow late afternoon...maybe that'll go better.

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