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Aimee
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first range session 2016

temps in mid-50's, we hit in the enclosed stalls and it was comfortable...was warmer (60 deg) yesterday but had other obligations so not able to get out. Shared a jumbo bucket with hubby, the nice thing was since my last round was just after Christmas, less than 2 months ago, the golf swing didn't feel like a foreign concept like it sometimes does after a long winter layoff. Hit some decent shots, the usual first time out type of results.

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Aimee
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wasn't able to play this weekend, it rained until noon on Saturday and Sunday was COLD/windy. We went to the range on Saturday afternoon, since I'm still not 100% from my recent illness, probably better off just hitting balls since I suspect I would have been too tired to play a whole round. Swing was good for the most part. They have a Ping demo day at my local range on Thurs. late p.m. if the weather holds out, I'd like to hit the new G series driver.

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Scott Rushing
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Nice AImee.  I've been

Nice AImee.  I've been hitting the one of the upscale courses near my house that has a nice putting green and a chipping green. Just been working on those two things and not too much full swing stuff.  Sort of nice to be making some decent putts but the chips are tough still...need more practice.

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DON
Getty ready to practice again

I've been going to my Cardiac Rehab sessions long enough that I'm thinking it's about time to start getting out to the practice area at the clurse to work on my putting and chipping game. I STILL get a bit Light headed at times, especially when I bend down and than stand up quickly. NOt a great feeling but it could be worse. I also have that new 460 Comp with the VooDoo shaft that i recently picked up and have NOT had a chance to hit in need of a good test session at the range. I'm also thinking about buying one of those Mini Drivers to play with. Not sure what loft to try, but I'm leaning toward getting a tour model with 12* of loft and an OPEN club face. That would play more like a 11.5* club when I close the face to hit the ball straight. Problem is there are LOTS of these clubs in 14* of loft but not many in 12*, so I'm still thinking about what to get. I could just buy a 14* Mini and change the loft to what I'd want, but that's more work. I could buy the Callaway Mini with the adjustable hosel and change the loft to what I'd want, but I'm NOT if big fan of adjustable hosel clubs, as changing the shaft rotation in the club screws up the Spine and FLO alignment of the shaft, and that's NOT good for how the club would play performance wise.

Don

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DON
Got a 14* Mini to tryout

I ended up buying a brand new TaylorMade Aeroburner Mini driver in 14* loft. I will try it out as is to start, and then see what I want to do with the factory 60 gram S flex shaft. I might just do a Spine and FLO alignment on the factory shaft to see what that does, but most likely I'll end up replacing the shaft with a better quality one in the 75 to 85 grams range. With the shorter club length or 42.5", I might go with a 85 grams shaft which is what I normally use in my fairway woods.

Don

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DON
I finially got out for my

I finially got out for my first range session since last YEAR and my heart attack, so it was nice to get out there and hit some balls again. I took the new Aeroburner Mini driver and the 460 Comp with the Voodoo shaft to hit. Did okay, but nothing great. And my swing speed is way down. I'm hoping it's due to all the meds I'm on after the surgery and it will to back to normal after I get to get off all the meds. Some of the meds will be a life time deal, so I don't know what the future will hold until I get there. The sky was very overcast so it was next to impossible to see the ball flight, so I don't really know how the Mini was performing distance wise. It did take a little getting used to HOW HIGH to tee up the ball with the much smaller head. I pretty much teed the ball up like I would for any fairway wood, and that seems to be working okay for now.  The 460 Comp did okay. Shaft seems pretty nice in fact. I will have to do some more testing when the sun is shining and I can SEE where the ball is going before i know for sure, but the driver seems to be fine. Agin, my swing speed was well below my normal so I have not idea what kind of distance I might get for the Comp until I get my speed back to normal. Some of it could be due to the LACK of hitting balls, and some could be due to the meds I;m on. Time will tell I guess.

Don

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Scott Rushing
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Glad to hear it Don, Glad you

Glad to hear it Don, Glad you got out.   Hopefully you wont be too sore tomorrow :)

Last range session was frustrating...didn't hit well, bad habits again.  The few shots I hit well towards the end of the session, I knew were "bad" swings in terms of technique.  Yes I hit the ball solid but I had the club face was too closed on the takeaway.   So I came home and watched my Golf Galaxy video lessons that I recorded and that helped.  Showed me that I was back to not making much / enough shoulder turn and was closing the club too much.  So working on basic swing pieces now, take-away, wrist cock and lift, until I'm back from a few days of R&R.  Then I'll try to play and see how it goes.  It feels better just in my piece swings.   But we'll see..

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Hit the range today after

Hit the range today after watching my Golf Galaxy lessons.  Watching the lessons, I could see some of the same old bad habits coming out.  Swaying too much, not making a full turn on the back swing, late wrist cock, etc.
My back was a little sore from doing my physical therapy but I managed to hit a half a bucket.  For the most part, good results.I hit some really nice irons and some thin ones.  Hit several really good drives.  Just need to work on the timing a bit.   Focused on getting my shoulders turned while not swaying back.  Feels odd and still need to make sure I don't "think" too much in  the swing.  Need to get to where it just happens. Hope to go back tomorrow and hit another bucket.

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scomac
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For better or worse, I've

For better or worse, I've never been all that keen on knocking myself out on the range pounding out balls in staccato tempo.  This morning I made my first trip to the range with number two son in preparation for an outing next weekend.  My boys might play only a handful of times a year.  He needed an opportunity to work out the rust and I needed a chance to figure out what i was doing to cause me to pull off the ball during my last abysmal round.

I probably spent the first 15-20 minutes of our session working with my son trying to get him sorted as he was chunking topping and slicing just about any club he chose to hit.  (Note to self:  Find him a set of stiff/xstiff shafted clubs because he is overpowering the regular shafts he's using which I believe to be half the battle)  The poor fellow topped one ball that hit the barrier rope marking off the section of range tee we were using.  That kicked the rope up in the air and then he managed to hook the rope with his club on the follow through!  The rope instantly swung up and over all the other folks that were hitting balls on our section of the tee area!  I've never seen anything like it before.  We both got a couple of death stares from a couple of the other range users despite the profuse apologies.

It took a while, but we finally got him sorted with his irons.  I told him to forget his woods as he was hitting the 4 iron over 200 yards and pretty much down the middle.  That would be more than enough to get the job done for a social round, but I have a feeling that playing with his brother and cousin won't allow for common sense to prevail.  The advantage of being old I suppose.

As far as myself, the issue that was causing me fits was mysteriously absent.  I worked my way through about a half a large bucket; 8, 6, 4 and then 4 wood.  I hit the ball pretty well, probably normal for me.  If anything I was still a bit toey and ball flight was more right to left than I'm used to, but that's been the trend this season, so there is likely a larger issue at work.  The second half of my bucket was directed towards target golf with my wedges.  There was a pitching net about 75 yards from my tee position.  I got it in the net on the fly once with a knocked down PW.  I got close a number of times with both my GW and LW, but couldn't manage to find the net.  I found it very good practice trying to hit a number of different clubs the same distance to a specific target.

We spent about another 20 minutes on the putting green alternating between long lag putts and 3 to 6 footers.  I'm consistently underestimating pace on long lags.  The trick seems to be to lengthen the stroke and maintain an nice even tempo rather than getting into a hit mode which can lead to blowing putts way past the hole.  On the short putts, I was pretty good from 3 feet, but it drops off pretty quickly as I move out to 4, 5 or 6 feet.  Lots of work still needed with the flat stick!

Scott Rushing
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Sco

Sco

I've been a range member for a few years now at my course, so I go out there pretty often.  though that might change as my membership is running out and I'm thinking about moving that investment into joining the course instead.  So we'll see.  But you're mention of hitting the rope and catching it on the club is slightly familiar.  Though i didn't hit the rope with the ball, I caught it on my follow-through and yanked it up.  Or felt the recoil when ours' were staked down!   never a good confidence builder in any sense.

Yeah, it's funny how some golfers won't do what it takes to get the lower scores.  A couple of guys I play with always choose the club they think any golfer would choose, more so than the one which would give them lower scores.   Whether it's driver off the tee when they should use 3W or wedge when they could bump and run, or use the hybrid. 

But your comment about hitting different clubs towards that 75 yard target reminded me of a Dave Pelz short game clinic I attended once.  A key take away from that was to take every wedge and measure the yardage the ball goes when hit from 3 swing lengths (1/4 swing, about 1/2 and about 2/3rds.)  then write those on the club (legal) and now you will see the overlap in yardages with the swing.  And it gives you different trajectories to be able to reach each distance.  I had those on there for years.  Haven't done it on my new wedges but I am spending time learning how far they go with those same varying swings.  I've learned sort of the same thing with my mid irons.  I know a swing where my arms get parallel to the ground, with my 6I goes low and will roll out to about 150 yards or so.  From there I can adjust and use a 7I for the 130 yards, etc. 

 

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The rope was staked down at

The rope was staked down at either end.  My son pulled the stake right out of the ground with his follow through!

scomac
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There's a pretty good

There's a pretty good practice facility and pro shop about 5 minutes from my home.  It's the shop that I had my fitting done at and ordered my i25's from.  One of the teaching pros there used to offer a lesson package focusing on scoring.  He's got a pretty good resume as he has taught a number of tour professionals over the years.  Not big time players, but several that played on some of the smaller tours.  I've been thinking about asking him if he could put together something for me this season with a similar focus, but oriented more towards the recreational player.  

I haven't had a lesson in many years, instead relying on trying to work things out on my own.  I feel as though I've made pretty good progress with my tee game and consistency has improved a lot with woods, irons and wedges on full shots.  It's the short game and putting that tends to come oand go much like the weather.  It's the area that also has the biggest impact on scoring after getting off the tee in decent shape.  Time for a change in approach I think.  ;)

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Funny on the range today. I

Funny on the range today. I just think as I have limited time it's not ideal. I only took 3 clubs today , my normal Cleveland 10.5 driver, my callaway 8 iron and my new ping G2 15.5 driver. Started with about 12 8 irons all not bad and decent stikes then to my new driver, shaft is a bit soft but some good hits. Them my normal driver and lots of good hits all around 85mph and 180yd carry ( good for me ). I then went back to my 8 iron for the last dozen balls, I could hardly hit a thing. Few thins a shank or 2 but overall not good for the last session of 8 irons. I think it may be going from hitting about 30 drives to an 8 iron for last 12 balls not a good idea. Something to think about. Any ideas folks. Cac

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Scott Rushing
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Cac,  you could have gotten

Cac,  you could have gotten your tempo off hitting the drivers time after time.  Usually if I have hit my driver a few times and switch back to the irons, I have that problem and really have to focus on making a few "slow" feeling swings to get back into a rythm

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Aimee
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Tempo

Agree with Scott. Hitting so many driver shots in a row will mess with your tempo. I have found that hitting 5 balls at most with each club is less likely to throw it off. And there are proponents of hitting clubs at the range in the order you might hit them in playing a par 5. For example, driver, fairway wood, hybrid, wedge. Or hit 3 balls with all odd number clubs, in order, then all even ones. I will usually hit 3-5 balls with a club based on hitting 3 good shots in a row, then I move on. Or if I hit 3 bad ones in a row, I change clubs so I don't get frustrated.

Try different approaches at the range, but don't hit one club for 30 shots, it isn't productive because it doesn't help you develop the overall technique you need for an actual round.

 

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Aimee
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we had some familial obligations Saturday, so went to the range Friday for Happy Hour (2 for one buckets!). Hadn't played since our round the prior Thursday at the outing...and you know with a scramble you don't hit many clubs. Started "squibbing" my irons to the right again and panic set in. Had spent last summer working on that and thought I had vanquished my mental demons and I felt the panic setting in again. We had a tee time for Sunday and I actually was not looking forward to playing. The weather took a left turn again so we cancelled the tee time and I took a lesson at noon instead (started raining about an hour later, so the timing was good). My instructor took a look at a couple of swings and then had me just hitting shots like a pitch, 3 o'clock to 9 o'clock...and I made excellent contact. He thinks I was getting sloppy and handsy and so I have to just hit a bunch of these half swings, then work up to 3/4, then full. Probably only lose about 10 yards with the half swing, so I could revert back to that on the course if I needed to. Bombed my hybrids and driver, it's just my iron issue rearing it's ugly head again. But at least I got a band-aid on the wound to stop the bleeding, quickly.

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Aimee
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went to the range Wed. night since I got done early with work. Hit a lot of irons, probably only hit about 10 balls total with hybrids and driver. I seemed to be OK after I remembered that I need to think about "pausing" at the top of my backswing. I think rushing the downswing is a big issue and causes my hands to get out of synch. I was even hitting my 5i well, so that's promising. Playing Saturday so we'll see what happens!

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DON
Good going Aimee.

I hope your iron game carres over to the course for you. For what ever reason, you can never tell if a good range session will carry over to the next round of golf or not. Just one of the reason Golf can drive a person crazy in a hurry. Good luck on Saturday.

Don

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Scott Rushing
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I sure need to spend some

I sure need to spend some time at the range hitting irons tomorrow myself.  Played today and just didn't play well.  Got up and down for par a lot so scored ok but wasn't hitting shots well.  Had some good drives but the irons were off.  have a tournament Saturday, will be mostly driver short iron (I hope) but I need to hit some decent iron shots on the Par 3s. 

Back to basics tomorrow and see if I can make some solid strikes.

Aimee, I've sort of felt I too had better strikes if I paused at the top.  Of at least on swings in the hosue.  I'll try that on the range tomorrow.

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Aimee
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Scott, my theory...since my instructor said my swing was fundamentally fine but my hands were the problem...if I rush the downswing, I "throw" the clubface with my hands, or my hands are racing ahead of the clubface...which could be why the mis-hits are squibs to the right. If the hands are too far ahead, the clubface is way out of position at impact (open) because it hasn't had time to square up. I'm guessing that I don't do that with hybrids or woods because they are heavier. And the issue doesn't come up with wedges because the swing is so much shorter there isn't time to get out of synch.

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Scott Rushing
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Aimee...My miss is usually a

Aimee...My miss is usually a thinner shot or a toe shot.   The thin ones frustrate me because I tend to think they are from my getting ahead of the club while it's decending.  If I stay back I tend to not do that.  But...the thing I know I do, is at the top, sometimes my wrists bounce and aren't smooth. When that happens the club's not where it needs to be.  I think the slight pause at the top helps things settle down a bit. 

I hit the range today and hit about 30 golf balls left by someone else (THANK YOU!! Range Santa!) .   It took me a few swings to get that pause at the top right but I hit some nice solid iron shots...shots I didn't hit yesterday when I played.  So we'll see how it goes.  Playing tomorrow.  My plan is to try it tomorrow for the front 9 and see how ti goes.  But some how I need to get better at hitting mid/short/long irons.  I'm clearly doing something that's getting the club offline or off plane. 

Not that I don't want to hit the driver well, but I really would like to flush a few irons a round..I don't tend to do that other than maybe a wedge..

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hit the range today...haven't

hit the range today...haven't hit balls since last week when I played golf.  So I figured things would be a little of.   started with wedges, just trying to hit the ball on line.  I want to start hitting more GIRs than I am now.  But I seem to find ways to miss the greens even though I'm hitting short irons from the fairways.  First 5 out of 7 wedges missed the green a hundred yards away..Way to start!

Anyway, worked on alignment and club path through the ball and got better.  hit about 8 in a row on the green.  Moved to the 7I and wasn't hitting the ball solid, at least not consistently.  Hit a few good ones but not often enough.  Tried various things.  The biggest thing that helped was on take-away, trying to push my right hand out and away so I don't take the club too far back behind me.  That seemed to help alot.   Still had trouble either not getting in front of the ball as the club was coming into it, and hitting it a little thin.  Or swinging too much "around" like a baseball swing with my shoulders.  If I can bring that right shoulder down as I swing through the ball, I tend to hit it OK too. 

Tweaked my back a little during practice.  We'll see how it is tomorrow.  if it's not too bad I might try to play 9 tomorrow..

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Headed back to the range

Headed back to the range today to hit a bucket with the 8I, PW and driver.  Hit the PW mostly working on trying to hit the ball straight.  yesterdays "fix" of "pushing" my right hand away on the back swing to keep it out wasn't having the same effect.  So good.  If I focused on getting my right shoulder 'down the line" AND could do it that turned out OK.  But then I remembered what Aimee had talked about having a pause at the top and how that had worked ok for me the times I tried it.  So I went back to that.  And I must admit, it had immediate effect and improvement.

The other day, bowling, someone remarked how I seemed like I was just going up there and throwing the ball and wasn't focues.  And I noticed that part of that was true.  I was sloppy with my release and the ball hitting it's mark.  Same can be true for me in golf.  Sometimes on my take-away I notice I get a little sloppy and the club goes back offline.  So i started workingon a very smooth take-away and on line.  Anyway, I'd say my ballstriking was WAY more solid when I had a slight pause at the top. 

So I'm going to try and stick with that and see how things go.  Might walk 9 tomorrow so I'll see how that works.

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I think what drivers most

I think what drivers most golfers crazy is how what works "Today" may or may NOT work tomorrow or the day after. Like most gofters, I can do the same thing 4 days in a row and alls good, then the 5th day I do the same thing again and it's all BAD. Drives me nuts to say the least. I bet this has happened to just about everyone that has played this crazy game more than once. BEST of luck with your game if you do get out and walk 9 holes tomorrow.

Don

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So interestingly, in the

So interestingly, in the latest version of one of the golf mags, Louie Ooost is talking about like 4 things to do to hit it well, and the 4th is "pause at the top". 

Anyway, we walked 9 today after work..ok 7...got too late because what we didn't know was we were behind some company league playing horrificaly slow.  Anyway, the pause did OK..No range time so was starting cold.  On the 2nd hole I started playing 2 balls it was so slow.  I had 2 goals for the play today, try to hit GIR and to work on the pause at the top.  First hole, after a nice iron shot (pause worked!) 95 yards to the green...focus .. focus...chunk!  AHHHHH!!!! 

Second hole...approach shot...focus .. focus...THIN!  ha, you can see where this is going.  So I was a bit over the map.  I did end up hitting some good iron shots...not everyone but we'll see if it gets better. 

GIR wise..after missing the first 3 I hit the 3 and was on the fringe on the 7th.  So ehhhh.  Golf is never easy...

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First swings in about a week

First swings in about a week due to vacation up in NYC.  Was fun but I was glad to get to the range today.  Even if it was 90 degrees.  I only hit a small bucket, <40 golf balls.  First several with the 7I were not great...then I remembered to have my pause at the top, started making much better contact.  Nuked a few of them.  Not everyone but had a number of really solid shots.  Hit a few drivers, maybe 8.  Most were playable to pretty good but a couple would have been trouble.

Then with about 10 balls I hit my SW... now I putt masking tape on the faces of all of them so I could see my ball contact. I consistently - like EVERY TIME - hit the SW on the toe side.  I mean all of them were in the same spot about half a ball off center.  Changing my stance moving a little closer to the ball, setting the ball more closer to the heal, slowing the swing...tried all those things but nothing got me center contact shots.  I mean the shots themselves were fine distance wise and height/etc.  but I'd like to hone that ball striking and get it tighter...

 

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Then with about 10 balls I

Then with about 10 balls I hit my SW... now I putt masking tape on the faces of all of them so I could see my ball contact. I consistently - like EVERY TIME - hit the SW on the toe side.  I mean all of them were in the same spot about half a ball off center.  Changing my stance moving a little closer to the ball, setting the ball more closer to the heal, slowing the swing...tried all those things but nothing got me center contact shots.  I mean the shots themselves were fine distance wise and height/etc.  but I'd like to hone that ball striking and get it tighter..

I have the same issues; everything tends to be toe side.  As far as I'm concerned if the results are consistent then I'm learning to be happy with it rather than driving myself mad trying to "improve" the proximity to center for strike.  I know that i've got the inside out swing path due to shot shape being right to left.  I get into trouble if I chicken wing the follow through which results in a pull, but as long as I follow through I'm going to generally get the result I'm looking for.  

We are what we are and i'm not getting paid to play, so I don't see much advantage to reinvent myself as I know that i can score when all facets of the game are working.  I think it's important that we don't lose sight of the fact that in previous eras golfers tended to develop their own game and style of play/swing.  There is a lot more uniformity know with the advent of modern techniques and equipment  which may improve the probability of good play, but doesn't have an exclusive rite to it.  This is supposed to be fun, not a substitute for work.

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Understand your point Sco. 

Understand your point Sco.  For me though, it's not work.  I enjoy going to the range and tinkering with my swing and learning more about how my swing works .  Shots I know I want to be able to pull off , and how to improve my ballstriking.    I have  had a goal of trying to break Par at least once and I'm close.   Usually there are just a couple things I can point to consistently that if I improved, I'd be able to maybe get there.  Everyone's motivated by different things which is good.  For me, working at the game and improviing is part of the fun and the challenge.

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Aimee
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ball striking

I happened to really look at my SW on Saturday when I was cleaning it at the range (nice bucket of water and a brush) and was pleased to see the wear area was pretty much in the center. Of course, I am seeing a wear area...which means I need to consider a new one at the end of the season probably. Michael took a lesson Saturday, I record it for him on his iPad so he can watch it later. After he's done, we have some extra balls to hit (the guy who owns the range and gives lessons is pretty good about giving us extra balls). I really just hit irons for the most part, still working on getting my groove back. Hit several 7 irons...my plan is that since I generally can hit 8i and down, I want to focus more time on mid-irons to get those back in synch. I also use the time at the range to play around with ball flight, so see how ball position changes trajectory and how I can shape the shots a little.

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Good choice Aimee.  Work on

Good choice Aimee.  Work on those weaker irons but still hit a few balls with the ones you're comfortable with, just to stay grooved.

I've known a lot of people who kept their wedges a long time even with the center worn.  So you might not really need new ones, especially if you like them. 

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