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scomac
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I don't think that I'd worry

I don't think that I'd worry about changing wedges until I was no longer statisfied with the check up I was getting on touch shots around the green.

In terms of wear, I hit a 100 year old hickory niblick in a tournament last month and had no trouble imparting enough spin on the ball to get it to drop and stop on a full swing.  I've got a 30 year old Ram Tom Watson sand wedge and can spin the ball plenty with that thing.  The face isn't quite black yet, but it has seen plenty of use.

I think by and large the need to upgrade is a marketing ploy used by the OEMs to promote more club sales.  YMMV

Aimee
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wedges

older wedges had larger and deeper grooves, so they tend to last longer. That's kind of my attitude, when I run my nail over the grooves and don't feel any edge, I'll know it's time to make a change.

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Scott Rushing
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Hit the range today...armed

Hit the range today...armed with my Ipad to video tape my swing.  Always interesting to see what you're doing. After a few less than stellar ball striking rounds, it was needed.  I had been hitting some good shots since I added the pause at the top of the swing, but that last few days I didn't hit too many good shots.  But I noticed in the videos I was bringing back an old swing flaw, that dread start of the down swing with a slight over the top move.  Like I'm trying to throw the club at the ball, I initiate the down swing with bringing the right shoulder out and over instead of down and in.    So I'm trying to remember that in my practice swing and have a smoother start to the down swing.  We'll see how it does when I hit balls this week. Was doing that with irons and the driver so that might be a reason I'm having the hard hocks to the left.  We'll see

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Hit the range today once I

Hit the range today once I made it back home from vaca...had some time to myself and though i'd go out for a nice slow paced session and work on the swing.  Started off slow, just some half wedges to loosen up, those were fine.  Moved to full swing PW and was noticing my ball flight starting and going left of where I wanted.  Figured that was my over-the-top move at the start of the swing.   So basically worked on improing the timing of my hips and shoulders and trying to stay balanced.  hit some good shots and a lot of not great ones. 

Moved to the driver, using both the old Cobra and the new Callaway.  Had the same inconsistent struggles with the Callaway.  The Cobra I was hitting fades/slices with.  Eventually decided one of my problems was being TOO methodical/mechanical on the backswing and took a couple "old familiar swings" and made nice contact using the Callaway.  So again, i think it's partly trust and swing, and Stay back behind the ball and not slide out front.    hit some good ones, seeming like I was now hitting fades or straight instead of straight or Left.  I can deal with that.  the fades at least go a good wasy where the duck hooks are just dead usually..

May play tomorrow so we'll see how it goes.  If I don't play I'll hit the range again...

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Aimee
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lesson

snuck a lesson in today (worked from home most of the day, had a meeting late afternoon so I went on my "lunch break"). My iron issue appears to be two things working together: swinging too upright (and not using the shoulders enough) and the right arm had crept over the left arm during my setup. They always say that when you set up correctly, someone standing behind should not see both arms. So the right arm over, with the upright swing, made me come over the top/outside-in and that was why I noticed I hit some on the heel end of the club. So we went out in the field of the range since there was only one guy hitting at that time and found a mound to set the ball above my feet...and I swung a 7i off that lie to promote the flatter swing. Hit some really nice solid shots, even saw the draw. It was hot out there so I went back into the stall (with the fan) and hit off a short tee and then the mat. Can't say I hit them all 100%, but it was a marked improvement. I was even able to hit my 6i (wasn't going to push my luck with 5i yet). Playing Friday so hopefully can work it out more!

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Scott Rushing
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Good luck Aimee.  It's always

Good luck Aimee.  It's always something.  Took my son to the First Tee program today and i hit a small bucket while he did his thing.  Have not been hitting my mid-irons well at all lately.  Maybe 1 of 4 GIR on Par 3s.  So just hit the 8I and was all over the place with it.  Need to keep working with the mid irons.  I was getting to fast on my swing, coming off balance, some pulls, etc.  So stopped after the small bucket and will try again tomorrow.   Maybe was figuring some things out near the end but didn't want to invest in another bucket to see.  But back to the range tomorrow..

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Aimee
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abandon

Scott, sometimes when it's really bad, the best course of action is to abandon the bucket and come back another day!

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Scott Rushing
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Agree.  Saw one guy yesterday

Agree.  Saw one guy yesterday seeming not to hit the ball well, he just kept hitting more and more..thin, pull fades, pushes..Everyone who left balls in baskets, he was on them hitting...more tense more bad tempo...I was glad I was stopping

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Good range session Saturday. 

Good range session Saturday.  Spent a couple hours at the range, it was beautiful outside, and hit and recorded swing video.  Found something that seemed to work after a rocky start though hit the driver very well.   I think I jsut need to always try to hit balls before a round so I can get my swing in check for that round.  My swing seems fragile enough right now that cold starts for 'real' rounds is a bad idea.  

Can see in the video I still am sort of starting my downswing with a bit of a lunge/over the top move, like I'm trying to jumpstart the power of the downswing.   Then I guess I reroute it enough to not pull/yank every shot.  But I want to make the first move more smooth where I can keep the club on plan.  Watching video my hands at impact return well above where they started, because of that over the top first move.  It's not a huge move but it doesn't need to be there.  

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Aimee
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Range

Went to the range today after the gym, Michael and I split a large bucket so I didn't hit a huge number of balls, but enough to reinforce the stuff from the lesson. Got brave at the end and pulled the 5i, was actually hitting it OK, so I'm making progess. I need to think about my setup, it isn't autopilot yet, but I don't mind that.

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Scott Rushing
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Better swings

Hit the range with my son and girlfriend today for a short swing session:6I, 3w, Driver.  Overall worked out some things and was hitting some pretty solid shots by the time I left.  Drives and 3W shots were straight or slight fade, both of which is OK.  I just need to be able to count on something so I can aim into the fairways next week at the beach.  I plan to hit a lot of 3Ws off the tees so hopefully I'll have similar success as today.  

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DON
I got out and hit the range

I got out and hit the range last week and did pretty good overall. I hit some BAD shots but I expected that after a year away from the game. But I did hit some of the best 3 iron shots that I have ever hit near the end of my range time. I do not evern carry any irons longer than my 6 iron in my bag so this was a really big surprise to hit four really good 3 iron shots in a row. First time I've swung a 3 iron in years really. All in all I was rather happy with my range time hitting balls. Spent just over 4 hours at the range in all. I was a bit tired at the end but that's not a big surprise after hitting about 150 balls down range. I was a bit sore when I got home but nothing at all the next morning which was a surprise i will not complain about. Not sure what the weather is supposed to be for the rest of this week but it would be nice to get back out there again late in the week.

Don

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Scott Rushing
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Good to hear Don.  Nice to

Good to hear Don.  Nice to hear you getting out to the range and hitting some good shots.   Thats good exercise as well

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Scott Rushing
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Well...

Well...

Hit the range for the first time in a couple weeks ... went back to working on initiating the down swing with the hips.  A lot of poor contact in the beginning but eventually got some solid shots.  Spent most of the basket hitting just my gap wedge and 7I trying to hit it solid and on target.That proved to be a challenge. MAybe it was rust from a bit of time off but I was a bit disappointed in how the whole session went.  I remember my golf instructor saying 'it gets worse before it gets better' so I didn't get frustrated or angry.  Probably gave me more respect for those who hit it pure.   A lot of my shots were toe shots so I was also working on trying to get the impact more towards the center of the clubface.  I did get some in there though not as many as I wanted.

With the last 15 balls I hit the 3W though I was hooking it badly in the beginning.  So just have to work on timing, tempo, swing path...ha...sounds simple huh?....Might be at the range again tomorrow...

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Aimee
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position

Scott, if you were hitting a lot of irons off the toe, then hooking 3W, suggestion: check to make sure you aren't standing too far away with the irons and/or coming over the top. When we (tried) to play last weekend, because I had more layers on (bulk) I was hooking the driver/woods which I never do...because my arm position got messed up (my theory).

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Scott Rushing
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Thansk Aimee.  It's usually

Thansk Aimee.  It's usually me starting with an over the top first move.   I did work on trying to move closer (almost too close) just so I could make myself hit the ball NOT on the toe, but I think the bigger problem is that first move.   That's why I'm trying to get the hips in action earlier so I can drop the hands down first and not come over the top.  When it works, it works well.  I just need to give it more time.  We'll see...that's what the off season is for!!

Playing tomorrow, low expectations.. we'll see how it goes.

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Hit the range today. WOuld

Hit the range today. WOuld have loved to play but didn't have the time. 

Took my driver, 7I and GW.  Had some solid contact shots but struggled with aim for some reason.  I guess it's timing with the new swing change...and if the hips are too quick or too slow, I'm going left or right.    Everything generally went where I wanted it too but I had more than I wanted going 10 or more yards right or left of my target.   Trying to tight up the dispersion a bit ..  Hope to walk 9 tomorrow afternoon...

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Wanted to get out and play at

Wanted to get out and play at least 9 today...but work just didn't want to cooperate.  It was probably for the best...winds were up and gusty, and the temps fell.  But I did make it to the range and try to get some rust out.  I just hit irons...7I, 9I, and some wedges.  As cool as it was, I didn't want to hit my driver with those rocks at the range.  Overall did OK....Was nice to get some swings in to see where I was.  Biggest thing was aim.   I missed the green about 130 yards out .. like probably the first 4-5 swings.  Eventually got the timing and alignment OK and had some nice shots.   Want to get the GIr number up this year..  see if I can save a few strokes there.  I felt last year i was missing too many of them fron reasonable approach shots.

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Aimee
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brrr/splash

well, we've been having a wet, not white, winter. Fairly rainy, but warm enough to not snow. Outside chance of getting to the range on Wednesday if I work at home and sleaze out for an hour, supposed to be in high 50's. Not sunny, but possibly not rainy.

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Scott Rushing
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We've had 70s the last few

We've had 70s the last few days..I was in vegas until Tuesday when I snuck down to Pinehurst...going to be cooler this weekend but today is another unseasonably warm day..

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Aimee
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fingers crossed

looks like it will be nice here to hit the range on Saturday!

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Aimee
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Hit it

hit the range, it was mid 60's, sunny, little breeze. First time touching the clubs for 3 months, so I can't say it was a good session, but at least when I play tomorrow I won't be as rusty. Hit every club in the bag, didn't hit driver well, lots of low fliers, one out of 6 was good. Generally did hit a bunch of low shots, but I think if I looked back over the years that is normal for first couple of times out, until I get synched up. Early forecast for end of next week is warm, so maybe I can hit again.

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Scott Rushing
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Frustrating range session

Frustrating range session today.   After my play earlier oin the week I decided to stick with the new swing change I had made, where I feel like I'm "pulling" the downswing with the left arm/hand.  I feel like when I do everything right, I get so much better and powerful contact on the ball.  So I went to work on that today but I was not making solid contact with the ball.  I was intentionally trying to work off the DIRT area we have (there's no grass left) to work on forcing myself to hit a descending blow on the ball and take a divot but eventually I went to hitting irons off a tee.  I'd hit one decent, one great and then several bad. 

In the end, I made some adjustments and hit about 3 out of 5 well.  The change was making sure O got my right shoulder coming down early in the down swing and not going "out and around" leading to an over the top move.  Slowing down the start of my downswing helped too, so I could get my shoulder moving correctly before I built up too much swing speed. 

Anyway, I will try to hit the range more this week and see if I can continue to put it together...quite frustrating right now..

 

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After playing 9 holes Fri and

After playing 9 holes Fri and Sat, I hit the range today to try and get some needed work in on ball striking.  I sort of figured out Saturday I was for some reason not staying down when I hit iron shots..Almost never too a divot, even when trying too.  So just kept squatting lower until I did.  Hit some good shots but not enough.

Today at the range I started with really firmly digging my feet into the ground, making solid contact with it, so I had a firm base.  Working to keep my hands quiet at the top and trying to keep my hips lower.  i hit some really solid 7Is...taking divots and everything. 

Switched to the driver and again the solid base and quiet hands at the top and I hit several really nice tee shots.  So we'll see Wed when I play 9 holes again if any of that helps.  But I've never made this much and effort to make sure I was grounded...could have just been a good day at the range...

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Had a good range session

Had a good range session Saturday morning.  Spent about 2 hrs there working on the swing.  First time in a month that I've probably hit balls.  Now that I joined the course, I just go "play" and usually don't spend much time really working on the range.   But given the game was so bad last week I wanted to go work on things using impact tape.

It's been frustrating lately, hitting iron shots a little "thin" where my swing isn't bottoming out where it should.  It felt like I was incapable of actually flushing an iron. So I was having the same problem at the range to start.  So I really went back to basics and slowed things way down.   That made a big difference with the tee balls.  Swing the 3w and felt like I hitting it dead center...Still getting good distance too. hit some drivers with that same motion/temp and shorter take-away and I had a slight fade on the ball.  Which I'm fine with.  I need to take 1 side of the fairway out of play..whether it's the left or the right, I just need to count on it. 

Worked on irons a lot..probably more..finally got into a rythm if I had the slower/smoother tempo and "pulling" with the left hand...I was taking a divot and hitting some center-face irons.  Wasn't every time but a more than the other day.

So I'll keep working on it and see if it holds up...cause I gotta do something ...

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Aimee
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Saturday range

I had also gone to the range on Saturday, which is probably why I hit the driver better on Sunday. Michael and I split a large bucket, it's enough balls for me to hit a couple with each club (often I skip some of the shorter irons to spend more time on the ones that give me issues). The golf course is not the place to work out the issues, that's for sure. And often if I have a good range session I use the positive mental imagery when I play to get more confidence.

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cac
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Have you guys and girls got a

Have you guys and girls got a grass driving range or rubber / mats ? I would love to practice on grass. CAC.

cac handed Geordie.

Scott Rushing
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We've got both...they just

We've got both...they just installed mats at our place this last year..and the plan is to use those only during the winter when the bermuda is dormant.  But now we have grass in so that's where most people hit from.

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Played 9 holes today..

Played 9 holes today...basically practice though.  Wanted to work on irons shots.  Drove the ball OK, not great but generally was in play.  hit a few bad wedges early, but I did basically go straight to the tee, no warm up .  On some holes I hit 2 or 3 or 4 iron shots into the greens.  Shortening the iron swing seems to be helping me hit the ball more solid. 

Also..putting..this is my home course I play alot, so I've built a yardage book for the course which includes a dipiction or each green and the contours and the shape of putts from various points.  I continue to add lines to it showing the direction of putts from various points on the green.  it's helping as today almost all the putts I had, I was able to review my prior putts and at least confirm the shape of the putts.  I didn't make them all because I over read the break but I didn't have many surprises.  I had a few where the putt didn't break as much as I expected, so I noted that too on the hole.   Maybe one day I'll start making a lot of putts...

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The practice facility that I

The practice facility that I use has grass tees.  I don't go all that often anymore; perhaps a couple of times a year.  I just go and play rather than work on my game.  I guess that's why I don't get any better!  cheeky

For me, my best practice would be from 100 yards and in.  All I really need to take would be an 8 iron, a pitching wedge and a sand iron and then go to work for distance control and aim, then go to the practice green and work on chipping and putting.  If I spent even an hour a week working on that stuff I'm pretty sure i could make some inroads.  I may just commit to something like that after my shift at the course I work at.