Golf Club Reviews and Discussions
Sco, I've fallen into the same sort of trap of not practicing much or often and just hitting the course. now that I'm a member again, and I can walk for free, I do that instead of paying for range balls. If my course had a chipping green at the course I'd do that some but they don't allow chipping at the putting green. There's another Par 3 with a chipping green but the grass isn't kept up like a putting green so you don't get a true view of how the ball will check up or bouce etc. So I do that some days and honestly I need to again. My chipping has been off here lately.
But If I'm only walking 9 and it's slow, I'll usually drop down 2 or 3 balls and practice them as I play those holes. So I do get some practice in, just not at the range as often now
Golf is a game that can only be played...
the range I prefer to go to has both artificial turf mats and real grass (along with a little shallow sand bunker) but the grass area is not mowed well and tends to be uneven and clumpy (not a good practice area for fairway shots). The range that is closest to my house has terrible range balls and they can't keep the grass area in good shape so it generally is only good for one week a year, then it gets roped off and is off limits. It actually has a very good greenside bunker with a fairly deep face, probably the one redeeming feature of this place. If I use my own golf balls I can hit out of it as long as I want for free.
It's not how...it's how many
didn't wind up playing over the weekend. The weather was not looking good for Saturday, with thunderstorms a possibility...we cancelled and it wound up raining for about an hour just when we would have been starting our round, so no regret because starting a round soaking wet is no fun, and with the humidity it would have been a slog. Sunday we made the call early in the a.m. to cancel because the heat and humidity were going to be very high and Michael just doesn't tolerate that well, he would have cramped out. So we decided to go to the range and work on our swings instead of just swinging. Since I haven't gotten any practice time in, it was needed.
We did OK ok the Company tourney last weekend. Were 8 under at the turn but on our back 9 could only muster another 4under. So 12 under overall. It was fun either way. This year we actually had more than one shot to choose from on the greens...usually it was pretty obvious what we would take. This time, we had to think about them because we had several.
next Saturday I have our course's next tournament, a Texas scramble. Looking forward to that but I will admit, my foot is still giving me fits. Had to stop wlaking 9 holes and always using a cart right now. Trying to get an appointment witha foot doctor to see if I've made something worse...I may wind up in a boot for a while ... which I'll have to remove when I play golf ! ha!
Played 9 today...yes, managed the pain. LOL. Played the senior tees because my league doesn't give me any more strokes for playing back...I get 3 strokes over the 9 holes no matter what tee I use. So why play 300, 400, or 500 yards more when I don't get credit for it. So I played senior tees for the first time. Shot 37...started and ended with a birdie. Should have probably been under par...but I made several really poor swings with my tee shots failing to get my weight onto that sore foot. Did scramble for par a couple times but had 1 triple, 2 birdies on the card. Overall I can't complain but I did hate losing my swing mid-way through the round and costing myself several strokes.
Played at Mountain View today, first time this year...shot 89, which was proof that practicing last week and Saturday did me some good. I had been flailing around in the mid-90's and getting fed up. I rarely break 90 on this course due to it's length and tiny greens.
Nice AImee. I need to get back to the range soon. I last went and worked on slowing down my drives and I was hitting it great. It feels like "just playing" I'm starting to fall back into my old habits and not hitting the driver or 3W as well. Going to get out there sometime this week
Been trying to nail down the tee shot this year. I had worked on a swing earlier this summer with one that was very shoulder turn focued and taking the hands back on path, and up to set the club at the top and then a slow swing turn into the ball. When it worked I hit some nice drives. Very straight and long. A couple of my longest. But I noticed that sometimes I'd get too mechanical and get my weight behind me and not get it shifted forward and wind up duck hooking the ball. if I could just let it happen it was pretty good. But that was harder that I thought. And I sometimes had back pain after the round and so I thought I might be getting into an ackward position with my back.
So this weekend I headed to the range to hit shots trying to develop a consistent fade off the tee. So focused on choosing a line behind the ball, setting the club, then setting my feet and releasing my arms so I let them fall naturally before I took the club in my grip again. That way I knew my upper body was in align with my feet. Practiced taking a short back swing but I was able to consistently hit a nice 5-10 yard fade. Any draws weren't big, so that was good too. But I did finish the last 5 shots all hitting fades into the fairway.
Distance loss I'm not sure of yet. Only round was today and it was a bit wet so not much roll...but clearly for most holes I was shorter of my normal distance. Maybe 10 yards. Well have to wait and see if that's consistent or not. But even if I do lose some yardage having more confidence of where my tee balls going will be worth it. And the back and weight shift felt better in this swing than the other could get. Keep you all posted on how it goes.
working at home today so I went to the range to watch hubby's lesson and hit some balls. And hit his new driver (slightly used Callaway XR16). It didn't come with an adjustment wrench since he bought it used, but the driving range owner/Pro has every tool needed. So I set it to 10.5 std loft, draw bias. Took a few swings to get used to the (light) weight...but I killed it, even with the standard flex, got it up as high as my own driver which is 11.5. May need to hit it on the course to compare the distance.
Hit a bunch of irons until I couldn't hit any more. May need to tweak ball position a bit further back now that I'm swinging a little better.
One of the guys in my men's league uses an XR16. It does launch very high. I'm not surprised at the light weight as I find a lot of the new woods to be extremely light to the point of being a drawback with respect to keeping my swing slotted.
The flex is what the flex is as there are no industry standards as to what constitutes regular, stiff or even extra stiff. If it is appropriate for your swing then I wouldn't worry about what is printed on the label as the stated flex.
So on our day off, Michael and I went to the range (after a nice walk on trails in a park) since he was so upset after his last round. He really suffers from tempo issues, if he slows down the backswing, he'll yank down to quickly on the downswing, and when his swing is going bad, nerves make that worse and it just snowballs. So I got him to move his feet a bit closer together so he wouldn't sway as much, and to swing with a more consistent tempo with weight transfer to front foot. He did hit the ball better, so mission accomplished. He needs a "check up from the neck up" sometimes.
As for me...hit a bunch of the mid irons since I don't hit them much in a round (vs. short irons/wedges) so I wanted to work on that. I hit some nice 5i when I concentrated on my tempo, feeling a very slight "pause" at the top of the swing so I guess my arms synch up better on the downswing with my hip turn or something. I try to not have swing thoughts or over-analyze things. I generally know the theory or the mechanics, but depend on being aware of body position to know if I'm connected correctly.
I can certainly sympathize with Michael, Aimee. I never understood what all the toodo was about with a deliberate takeaway. It never worked for me because there is no rhythm in it thus leading to over-swinging, or at least that's my theory.
yesterday, before my round. Last couple times out on the course, haven't struck the ball like I'd like too. Have gotten away with a few but overall not been solid off the tee or with irons. Recorded myself and watched it last night. really helpful. I use an iPad and a golf / sports recording app. Really liked being able to slow down my swing in slo-mo and sort of compare my positions to youtube slo-mo videos of good golfers and just sort of see the differences in my and their swings. Even though I can't easily 'feel' it, I can easily see my 'sudden' lung to start my downswing which is creating an over the top sort of start to the swing. (Nothing new by the way..just can see it's still there). I had worked on that earlier this year when i was trying to really slow down my swing so my start was smooth and not over the top.
Also saw that I don't bend right elbow really during the take-away...and that gets me more with a flying elbow on that side.
And in some shots, that over the top started me casting the club early too.
So lots to work on..think I'll try to remember to video once every couple weeks and see how I'm doing.
Good range session today. Best in a while. I've been going about every day trying to find something swing wise that's consistent. Seemed to find it today. if I'm lucky I'll get to hit a small bucket tomorrow and see if the same swing mechanics hold up. having to write the changes down I've made so many - just so I remember how to setup. But it worked nicely today - once I remembered it all
worked at home today so I took a mid-afternoon break and hit a med bucket. I wanted to work on extending my arms out through the follow through on my driver. Watching a video of some of the LPGA players I realized that I don't fully extend as long as I should, I fold my arms too early. I was hoping to talk to my instructor but he wasn't there, he was invited to play at Pine Barrens GC so his brother, who was minding the store told me he qualified for a Senior pro tournement in AZ at the end of September, I saw his name under Bill Britton's under the local qualifiers.
Good catch Aimee. Golf swing happens so fast, we can't always see that, but yeah that extension is a good thing , on both sides of the swing. Sounds like the new driver though is longer so with extension it could be even longer.
My recent work with the videos i've been doing showed me that I was doing the same sort of thing on the take-away for me. it was sort of a lazy take-away and getting more to taking the club up too fast and not fully getting my arms extending. So that's one thing I'm working on. Was affecting my right elbow position, etc. So I'm working on that low slow take-awayto get my hands away from my body. I seem to be able to extend on the follow through, it's the take-away for me that's tougher.
hard habit to break. I'm OK on the takeaway as far as extension, but always have had an issue on the follow through. At the end of the swing my hands are too close to my left shoulder. One of my first instructors was always stressing the "low and slow" takeaway so I think that move got ingrained pretty well early on for me.
If hitting the driver came naturally to me like putting and chipping, I'd be in great shape. but noooooo
Went to the range tonight, club championship starts tomorrow...and realized I left my wallet at home. Has been happening a bit lately since i went to keeping my wallet in the front pocket at the recommendation of my doctor for back issues. Well I already begged an IOU from the guy there and tonight he was back..so I said No I was not going to go ask for another. So I went and chipped a little and then took about 5 balls from the chipping area to a stall and hit with the driver, which was what I wanted to see how was. I had something working the other day and I was trying to replicate that simple swing. 5 balls...4 hard hooks and one decent one. I packed up and said I was glad I left my money because I didn't want to waste my time there. I'll just work it out tomorrow before I tee off....oh this game...
I wouldn't lose any sleep over it, Scott. Driver is the hardest club in the bag to hit well consistently, so you shouldn't really expect to be as good with it as a wedge or putter.
My new driver has been very inconsistent since I put it in the bag, both from round to round and within the round. It has made it very difficult to figure out how to set it, so I've just left it with +.75° loft and neutral until some sort of consistency shows up good or bad. I have no idea how professional golfers get used to a new big dog every year as required by their sponsors? It seems unbearably difficult to me.
Strangely, I have played pretty well of late and had more consistency in good scoring than I've had most of the year. May have something to do with me being more thoughtful off the tee and choosing other options more frequently. At this point I figure that the best I can do is concentrate on swinging free and easy and unclutter my mind of any swing thoughts of manipulating the club.
I find that usually works better for me Sco...freeing the mind and body to swing. too much clutter there leads to poor swings for me
Been taking a few days off due to some back tightness and light pain. Feeling better now. Not sure if it's swing change related or playing 36 last weekend or just random. We shall see tomorrow. Might try to hit the range tonight for a small bucket and see how it goes.
I've come to discover that much of my low back issues are related to hip and glute tightness that pulls on my low back. This has also manifested itself into calf a foot issues recently. I wonder if my body is trying to quietly tell me that it's time to sell my road bike as the riding position is just too aggressive for an occasional rider. I had been riding it a bit lately for some cardio training to get a bit of preparation in before the start of the curling season.
I absolutely have to be consistent with doing stretches prior to any sort of activity at this point in my life. The good news is that at least I'm learning how to deal with this a bit better than simply relying on treatment of symptoms which is expensive and hardly permanent!
After another round of 92 with inconsistent ballstriking and toe shanking my 7 iron a couple of times, decided to take a tune up on the irons since I was not feeling good with them again. My instructor has a tournement in 2 weeks at Desert Mt in AZ, so I was able to catch him. So the big issue for me is not keeping my shoulders level. I have to focus on setup to not be open, get my head behind the ball, keep the shoulders relaxed and level. By dipping my right shoulder, I come in to the ball with the face open. And also hold that club face square thru the stike, not manipulate with my right hand. I hit a bunch of shots off a short tee on the mat, started with SW, then PW, then 8, then 7. It is a drill to reinforce the mechanics. As I went thru the large bucket, I had fewer mishits, it was good to see improvement. I hit a couple off the mat and didn't make great contact, but I am not surprised since all the other ones were off the tee I probably lost my feel for hitting off the ground. Then I pulled out the driver (of course, couldn't resist) and focused on keeping shoulders level and I blasted the ball. High, far, and straight, no blocked right shots. Hit a few out of the sand, hit a few wedges out of the thick grass. Should be able to practice tomorrow p.m., which would be good for further reinforcement because I likely couldn't get back to the range until Friday.
Nice AImee. Good to see results that quickly Sometimes its funny how one or two things make such an impact.
I have a demo session set up to demo the K-Motion K-Vest next Wednesday, so I went out to the driving range yesterday to get in some swings to try to get my game swing back in shape. I must admit that I was a bit rusty after the past year and a half of very little range time. But the swing came back pretty fast after hitting a bunch of wedge shots. After I got warmed up I got out my Swing Speed Radar unit and measured my swing speed, first with a 7 iron, then a 5 iron, and finally with my trusty 24* 9 wood. I was pleasantly surprised with my swing speed with all of those clubs. 7 iron topped out at 88 MPH, while the 5 iron got up to a nice 98 MPN. The best part might be the high of 110 MPH with my 9 wood. Had six of more at 108 MPH with the wood, so I know it wasn't just a one time got lucky swing. To the best of my memory, that is the highest swing speed I have ever gotten to with an iron or my 9 wood. What I'm most impressed with for the 9 wood is that the 9 wood is only 41 inches long and weights a total of 370 grams. It has my favorite fairway wood shaft, which is the 82 gram Prolaunch Blue FW graphite shaft. This club is a quite a bit shorter than a standard 3 wood or a driver, so I was rather happy to see that high a swing speed with this short fairway wood. I did hit a few shots with my 3 iron, mostly just to see if I could hit it okay after a long lay off. Hit is okay with a top speed of 101 MPH on one really good swing. I couldn't see where any of the golf balls landed with any of these shots as my eyes don't work very well much past 100 yards. but I didn notice that the balls were flying off the club face with all the the well struck shots.
I hope to get in another range session this Friday to get ready for my K-Vest demo next Wednesday. It wll be interesting to see if my high swing speeds continue to show up. I'll let you khow what happens. One thing that I want to note about this last range session, is that I just started taking Swing Oil a few days ago. Swing Oil is a jount supplement that is used by some Tour golfers, most noticeable of which is Jason Day. I got some Monday and again on Tuesday morning about an hour before I headed out to the driving range. To early to say for sure what the long term effects of the Swing Oil will be, but so far it's looking quite good. Highest swing speed ever with both woods and irons is a good start.
Putting is easy if you have the Right Putter.
I saw an ad for Swing Oil Don, Interesting. I know a lot of people who believe in the join juice type supplements and then i know clinical folks who says there are no imperical evidence to show it has any effect. But I can't try to..most glucosimine is derived from shellfish so with my allergy to shellfish, I have to avoid it. There was someone I saw one time was making a version that was non-shellfish based but I don't think I ever tried to find it in stores..
Good luck on the testing..let us know how it's going
hope everyone's doing well I've been in SoCal the last week on business and pleasure but no golf. MAN are those coastal towns 'the way the 1% lives' Wow.$2M homoes...$8M homes...drawfed by $21M homes...bueatiful beaches..and houses...and apparently you need a Massarati if you live there..or Range Rover. Was funny to see all the super expensive cars everywhere. Nice place to visit but wouldn't want to live there with that traffic.
Well hit the range for the first club swings in about 2 weeks. Playing tomorrow, then maybe Friday and Sat before heading to the beach next week for 3 days of golf...
Range session was odd..a little rustyb but not bad. irons were pretty good. The new swing with trying to get a flat wrist at the top I hit some nice iron shots. I still struggle with the over the top start - but now I'm going to have to live with it till I'm through next week and just plan accordingly. If I can make the right moves, I don't do it - over very little- and the ball goes straight. But if I'm not careful i could pull the ball left of the target. With the woods that seems to be more of a pull-fade which is OK, especially where I'm playing tomorrow. but just have to make sure it's not just a PULL. those go left and STAY left.
But we'll see how it goes. My goal tomorrow is to aim right where I can - playing for the pull fade and play the fade tee those. Maybe favor the left of the green a little with the irons and see what happens. Want to have a consistent pre-shot routine to try and get the shoulders going like they should to lessen the Over the top.
But we'll see how it goes...update you tomorrow night.
Good to hear you are getting to go put and play later this week. I hope your game is working well for you. I went out to the range to have my Demo of the K-Vest system last Wednesday as planned. I also drank the Swing Oil for 3 days, Monday, Tuesday and then Wednesday a few hours before I headed out to the range for the Demo. Good news is that I again had my highest swing speeds ever for my irons, and matched my high swing speed for my woods. The factory rep for the K-Vest couldn't believe my swing speed with a 6 iron when we were doing the demo. I got the 6 iron up to 99 MPH a few times and the guy was surprised to see that kind of speed from a 70 year old guy that is out of shape and had a heart attack less than 2 years ago.
I rather like the K-Vest system. Gives you some interesting facts about how you swing the clubs. The system allows him to recond my swing and then bring up a graphic of my swing from take-away to finish positon. The then put up a graphic of my swing side by side to one by Ennie Els. Turns out my swing is pretty much the same as Ennie's swing, which is nice to see. Not much wrong witn Mr. Els's swing I'd say. The K-Vest comes with either 2 or 4 sensors to measure and record your swing motions. One sensor is on your back between your shoulders, one is on your spine just above the waist, one is on the left arm just above the elbow and the last one is on the back of the left hand. This allows the system to measure the motion of the hips, torso, arms and hands during the entire swing srom set-up to well past impact. MY hip turn was a little high at around 60 degrees, and my shoulder turn was right at 100 degrees.So my seperation was a little low at 40 degrees, but the added shoulder turn was nice to see with so little range time the last 2 years. According to the data from the K-Vest sensors, my swing sequence was pretty good. Take-Away was in the correct order, and the only thing wrong with my downswing was that my hands were starting down just before my arms, rahter than after the arms.
One of the nice things about the K-Vest system is that I could add a NOTE to any of the swings recorded, like my swing speed for example, and then I could go back later and look at the data, and see if I could figure out WHY I got say 99 MPH with my 6 iron on one swing and not the others. Needless to say, it would be nice to figure out what I'm doing different when I get my highest swing speed so I would work on doing it all of the time and get my high swing speed on most every shot and not just on some shots. More consistant speeds would be good to have the say the least.
As for the Swing Oil. all I can say for now is that I've taken it before the last two range sessions, and I've now gotten my highest swing speeds witm irons irons on both sessions, and I had my highest clubhead speeds with my woods as well. I'm rather pleased with the Swing Oil so far. It will be nice to see how it works in the near future range sessions.
Interesting Don. So how much is that system? I saw something on the internet that said $5K...Did they talk about cost? What's their target market? The instructor level...rich consumers? Sounds interesting
The cost of the system with all 4 sensors is about $4800 and with just the two sensors, around the chest and around the waist, is $2500. They are selling the K-Vest system to both golf instructors and golfers that want to work on their game on their own. You also need to have a Windows computer to hook it up to. I happen to have a nice Windows 7 laptop with a 17" screen so that's one thing I don't have to figure in to the cost.
The $2500 for the 2 sensor system might work, but I need to find out what I would be giving up if I only have the 2 sensors instead of all 4. The one thing I did learn at my demo session is that I could start with the 2 sensor K-Vest system and then add the other 2 later if I want to spread out the cost a bit.
If you go to the Hot Off The Presses section of this forum, you will find my post on the K-Motion K-Vest and a link to their website if you wnat to find out more details on the system and how it works. The $4800 price tag is not cheap my any means, but we both know that golf lessons can get expensive and they add up over time. so it could work out in the long run to get this system and work on your swing by yourself. What I want to do is find out HOW the system would help me to improve my game over time. I konw how the system can SHOW me what I'm doing in my swing, but I want to learn how ti would help me to make a better and more consistant swing in the future. That would be where the system could prove to be worth the investment.