Wilson & Golf Channel's Driver Vs Driver show

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Scott Rushing
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Wilson & Golf Channel's Driver Vs Driver show

Anyone else watching the GOlf Channel's Driver Vs Driver show?  Where people like us bring design ideas for new drivers to the table in a "Shark Tank" like setting and some get picked to move on and other's sent home.  Wilson is sponsoring it with the idea that in 1 yr, one of these drivers will make it to the stores for purchase.  

Thus far I've been amazed how many people don't know there are rules about what conforms and what doesn't.  The show has drawn some engineering types, some former PGA pro folks and then just average people.  But multiple people have gone home for designs that are illegal - like holes THROUGH the club to let airflow get through and speed up the clubhead speed.    Or the one with a whistle on the hostel.    And all sorts of adjustable clubs.... 

 

Not sure I've seen much that hits on something I might want...  I guess we'll see

 

http://www.wilson.com/en-us/explore/golf/driver-vs-driver

 

scomac
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I watched the first two

I watched the first two episodes.  There were some interesting ideas, but it became clear to me early on that Wilson really wasn't interested in anything that departed much from the current norm.  IMO the whole exercise just ended up being another piece of contrived reality TV.

Wilson doesn't have much of a presence up here anymore.  They sell balls and that's about it.  I wouldn't expect to see anything come from this exercise in terms of a retail golf club.

Scott Rushing
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Yeah, it's a big commercial

Yeah, it's a big commercial for Wilson essentially - and a cheap reality TV show for the Golf Channel.   thus far I don't know that I see more than one or two designs that have anything unique.    And let's face it, probably everything we could think of .. has been TRIED AND TRIED already.   One of the judges commented that he didn't think a 'driver for the high handicapper' would sell with the current 'i want to hit what the pro's hit' mentality most golfers have.    I think the HIGH handicappers might buy something that kept them in the fairyway, but it'd have to be a low price point entry which most companies don't do now.

I don't really see how this is really going to work more than as a stunt-gimmick-commercial.  There might be something in the stores briefly (to comply with the contest)  but I don't see it lasting.   A little sad actually because Padriag Harrington just won on the Euro Tour, playing Wilson and I think Wilson's irons are very good and very under-rated.  I almost wish they hadn't done this...

 

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I don't really see how this

I don't really see how this is really going to work more than as a stunt-gimmick-commercial.  There might be something in the stores briefly (to comply with the contest)  but I don't see it lasting.   A little sad actually because Padriag Harrington just won on the Euro Tour, playing Wilson and I think Wilson's irons are very good and very under-rated.  I almost wish they hadn't done this...

I agree.  Their approach to this just cheapens their brand IMO.

Almost every time that a manufacturer tries going the gimmick route it tends to backfire.  It has hurt Taylormade and essentially killed Nike.  You would think that Wilson would be smarter than that.  It takes a lifetime to create a reputation, but only 5 minutes to destroy one! 

Scott Rushing
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I heard Wilson's guy

I heard Wilson's guy Streelman says he'll put the winning club in his bag.  Will be interesting to see if he really uses it in a tour event.  Now it's silly-season somewhat for the PGA so if you're going to do that, now might be the time but let's see how this goes.

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Scott Rushing
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well let's see how Wilson's

well let's see how Wilson's new Triton driver sells in the store..

http://www.golfgalaxy.com/p/wilson-staff-triton-driver/16wilmdvdmrhdrv

 

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DON
$450

At a price of $450 I think I'll pass on this driver. Not sure if it's any better than what I have or what the other OEM's are selling. Most golfers will NEVER use both sole plates once they decide on which one they like best so that'a a waste of money after a few days of testing. Why not do the testing first and save the money?

Don

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Scott Rushing
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So that's what I thought his

So that's what I thought his original idea was, to have the sole plates in the stores for fitting and you get one that works best.   Maybe due to the price they figured they'd throw in the second one.

It will be interesting to see if the PGA guy on the show really puts this driver in his bag for any length of time. 

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scomac
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Well I guess I was wrong.  I

Well I guess I was wrong.  I ended up watching the whole series.  For my money they picked the right driver although I am aware that many on the other golf web site think otherwise.

I've even seen it advertised up here at Golftown, so I imagine that it will hit the stores at some point this winter.  The acid test will be how the club performs.  At the price point, I have a tough time seeing how it's going to supplant market share from Taylormade or Callaway.

It could be the right idea to crowd source technology, but I wonder if it's the wrong time to gain much traction with the point we're at in the golf "cycle".

scomac
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Well, well, well...  The USGA

Well, well, well...  The USGA in their infinite wisdom have declared certain models of Wilson's new Triton driver illegal!  

http://www.golfchannel.com/news/golf-central-blog/wilson-tweaking-triton-driver-make-usga-conforming/

I'll bet they didn't see this coming.  Kinda takes the wind out of their sails a bit with this swing for the fences approach to again become relevant in the club business.

The decision seems pretty arbitrary, but then again so does most of what the USGA does anymore, but hey they're prtoecting the integrity of the game...  frown

 

DON
This all sounds a bit like

This all sounds a bit like over kill from the USGA. The 9.5* driver is said to be legal but the 10.5* and the 11.5* are not due to some issue with the sole plate?  I have read about some other issues with club designs by other club makers that were pretty much a joke. Minor changes in the design and they become legal. It just goes to show how weird some of the club design rules have gotten over the years. The issue about the extra weight screw is really a joke. I can buy extra weight screws for most of the drivers on the market and use them and it does NOT make the club illegal in any way, so how can a factory assesory make this club illegal? Seems a bit much.

Don

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Scott Rushing
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Interesting...so it wasn't

Interesting...so it wasn't clear but I assume the 12 gram weight was changing the CG beyond the limits of the USGA specs?  Would love to understand more what the design differences were in the models.  But yeah, this seems like USGA going a bit overboard. 

So Wilson made them, and designed them, so I guess the winner gets to keep his $500K prize...even though there's the potential for an argument that his illegal driver might have performed differently if it were legal...Wonder if the other contestants made any comments to Wilson?

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DON
As far as I know, there is no

As far as I know, there is no limit to the CG of the clubhead. Max MOI has to be in spec, but I don't know how adding a 12 gram screw weight would make the MOI go too high. Club builder add weight to the club heads all the time to get the weight and feel of the clubs to the players like.

Don

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